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    Floyd will win but its not because Marquez is any less talented or gifted as Floyd. Marquez boxing i.q is just as high as floyds and he has an all around understanding of timing and the sweet science.

    Think about this if you will. JMM is not as strong, fast, or as athletic as Manny, but in both fights he was able to use precise punching and beyond accurate timing to negate the effectiveness of a fighter who holds every possible physical advantage over him. JMM was not ducked by Hamed, Barrera and Moralse through out the early part of the decade for no reason.

    What he lacks in physicality he makes up for in flawless form and the technical mastery of boxing. Marquez does EVERYTHING right.

    Now am I saying JMM has a chance with Floyd? No i dont believe he does and here is my reasoning. Marquez was perfect @ 127 and 130. When he moved up to 135 to fight Cassamayor and Diaz his legs werent as solid as they use to be. He was getting hit a lot more backed up by fighters who arent as good as him. I dont think his age is catching up to him per say but the added weight has taken away alot from him and made him not as elusive and easier to hit. His defense can be broken.

    Floyd (though a former 130-135 fighter) has grown into a welterweight body and has taken the reflexes, speed and agility with him all the way up to 157 (where he fought Oscar).

    Its not a matter of floyd being smarter in the ring, its a matter of floyd being smarter in negotiations. By making JMM come up to 143, he has guaranteed himself a decent payday against a "brilliant little man". Juan looked shaky at 135 and will look like a bloated ham @ 143 (its a catch weight fight) and will be easy pickings for floyd.

    If May would of really wanted a challenge he would have met JMM @ 135 (or shane,clottey,or cotto @ 147), where i would still favor him, but see Marquez as a live underdog.

    Im disgusted with the Mayweather camp, because by picking this fight they are turning one of this generations best fighter into a "tune up".

    I am a little upset with Juan , because in his never ending quest to "one up" manny, he has agreed to ridiculous terms and is going to be slaughtered.

    I know the lot of you are saying "size dont matter" because of what manny did to oscar and hatton. Well friends, Floyd isnt Oscar (who fought once a year for the last 7 years) and has more talent then ricky could ever dream of. Floyd will win.

    But rest assured it has nothing to do with him having more ring smarts...its him exploiting Juans need and desire to be mentioned in the same light as Pac and Floyd.

    Floyd is a safety first fighter and this fight gives him a huge payday against an amazing (yet tiny) fighter with a built in mexican fan base because god knows floyd cant sell tickets on his own.

    And before you jump down my throat for that his fights against with Gatti, Oscar, and Hatton only did huge numbers because all of them were beloved fan favorites, proven ticket sellers and had HUGE fan bases.

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    current pac still destroys him...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pacman777 View Post
      current pac still destroys him...
      JMM?

      And why is that?

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      • #4
        The best analysis of Floyd-Juan that you have seen is your own analysis?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Benny Leonard View Post
          JMM?

          And why is that?

          benny, you know why


          you want proof? check out manny/hatton and manny/de la hoya and then compare it to your boi mayweather p:

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          • #6
            No way does Floyd destroy JMM with ease. JMM is going to make him work to keep his zero.
            Last edited by **********; 05-21-2009, 01:45 PM.

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            • #7
              Im disgusted with the Mayweather camp, because by picking this fight they are turning one of this generations best fighter into a "tune up"
              Blame Roach and the Media first:
              Blame Pac for fighting a DEAD Oscar at 147 and then taking on Hatton and having the Media blow up Pac's legacy.
              Thus forcing Floyd to come out of retirement for vengeance.

              If Pac doesn't fight Oscar and Hatton....you don't have Floyd coming back to fight JMM.

              What does suck is that JMM might not be given his just do that he deserves. The Man is an incredible fighter.

              When I saw that video of him and Floyd coming out of the Double-decker bus in England...I felt bad for JMM because it looked like he wasn't really a part of the show.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pacman777 View Post
                benny, you know why


                you want proof? check out manny/hatton and manny/de la hoya and then compare it to your boi mayweather p:
                Yes, because we know a DEAD past Prime Oscar is the same as JMM. And Hatton is equal to JMM

                And the Oscar Floyd fought wasn't the same as the one Pac got.

                And for Hatton, Floyd got the fresher fighter but it still wouldn't have mattered that much because Pac went for the KO early...which was in a way setup by watching Floyd get to Hatton when Floyd decided to open up. Floyd should have just opened up more from the start but that's on him.
                Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-21-2009, 12:25 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard View Post
                  Yes, because we know a DEAD past Prime Oscar is the same as JMM. And Hatton is equal to JMM
                  Oh the hypocrisy. Let's take a look:

                  Pac jumps up two more weight classes to fight a 35 year old Oscar, at a weight 3 lbs below where he had fought 7 months prior.

                  Floyd, at a weight he has been established at for years, asks a 36 year old Marquez to jump up two weight classes, or 9 lbs, above where he has ever fought before.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by King Cotto View Post
                    Floyd will win but its not because Marquez is any less talented or gifted as Floyd. Marquez boxing i.q is just as high as floyds and he has an all around understanding of timing and the sweet science.

                    Think about this if you will. JMM is not as strong, fast, or as athletic as Manny, but in both fights he was able to use precise punching and beyond accurate timing to negate the effectiveness of a fighter who holds every possible physical advantage over him. JMM was not ducked by Hamed, Barrera and Moralse through out the early part of the decade for no reason.

                    What he lacks in physicality he makes up for in flawless form and the technical mastery of boxing. Marquez does EVERYTHING right.

                    Now am I saying JMM has a chance with Floyd? No i dont believe he does and here is my reasoning. Marquez was perfect @ 127 and 130. When he moved up to 135 to fight Cassamayor and Diaz his legs werent as solid as they use to be. He was getting hit a lot more backed up by fighters who arent as good as him. I dont think his age is catching up to him per say but the added weight has taken away alot from him and made him not as elusive and easier to hit. His defense can be broken.

                    Floyd (though a former 130-135 fighter) has grown into a welterweight body and has taken the reflexes, speed and agility with him all the way up to 157 (where he fought Oscar).

                    Its not a matter of floyd being smarter in the ring, its a matter of floyd being smarter in negotiations. By making JMM come up to 143, he has guaranteed himself a decent payday against a "brilliant little man". Juan looked shaky at 135 and will look like a bloated ham @ 143 (its a catch weight fight) and will be easy pickings for floyd.

                    If May would of really wanted a challenge he would have met JMM @ 135 (or shane,clottey,or cotto @ 147), where i would still favor him, but see Marquez as a live underdog.

                    Im disgusted with the Mayweather camp, because by picking this fight they are turning one of this generations best fighter into a "tune up".

                    I am a little upset with Juan , because in his never ending quest to "one up" manny, he has agreed to ridiculous terms and is going to be slaughtered.

                    I know the lot of you are saying "size dont matter" because of what manny did to oscar and hatton. Well friends, Floyd isnt Oscar (who fought once a year for the last 7 years) and has more talent then ricky could ever dream of. Floyd will win.

                    But rest assured it has nothing to do with him having more ring smarts...its him exploiting Juans need and desire to be mentioned in the same light as Pac and Floyd.

                    Floyd is a safety first fighter and this fight gives him a huge payday against an amazing (yet tiny) fighter with a built in mexican fan base because god knows floyd cant sell tickets on his own.

                    And before you jump down my throat for that his fights against with Gatti, Oscar, and Hatton only did huge numbers because all of them were beloved fan favorites, proven ticket sellers and had HUGE fan bases.
                    jmm signed to fight at 144 lbs. if he's cool with that weight then why aren't you?

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