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Cotto Refuses To Fight Pacquiao Below 145-Pounds
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal
2) pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto officially weighed 138 lbs???
3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW
4) unless cotto agrees to 142, this fight shouldn't even be discussed.
5) Cotto is a MW on fight night and Pac is a WW on fight night. IS THAT FAIR???
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Originally posted by solo20 View Postone is moveing up good for Pac one is moveing down to drain and remove his mucle and the rest is hirstoy everything became clear in that fight iam not aginst Pac you want to fight the best you fight them at there best weight the end
PAC is likewise taking the risk if moving up, he can bring with him his speed and power. Nobody knows for sure.
What we have seen is after the fact, 'AFTER THE FIGHT'. Pure hindsight.
By bringing deficiencies after the fight can be seen as EXCUSES coz there is none before the fight right?
What if DLH won? would it be a simple -- 'I TOLD YOU SO!!!' --
That is why, you have to agree before the fight, and NO EXCUSES after that.
It is so simple right?
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Originally posted by solo20 View Postname one ATG who did this i want to know.
Hopkins-Pavlik and Hopkins-Wright were at catchweight, and most people think Hopkins will be classed as an ATG.
Felix Trinidad-Roy Jones, Jr. was at catchweight, and most people think Jones will be classed as an ATG.
But most ATGs in the past used to stay in their own weight class and clean them out. The sport wasn't so driven by money in the past as it is now, and fighters used to fight in their own division, rather than trying to get fights with "name" fighters in other nearby divisions.
Hagler never fought outside Middleweight, for example. Even SRR spent years exclusively at Welterweight, then moved up to Middleweight because he could no longer make the Welterweight limit - he didn't move up simply in order to make a big fight. He did have one fight at Light Heavyweight before returning to Middleweight, but that was an exception to the rule in those days, fighters very rarely did that. Even Duran moved up when he could no longer make weight easily, he didn't move up just in order to get a big fight. Henry Armstrong did fight above his natural weight class because he could beat bigger men than himself, but he really was an exception to the rule.
For most of his career, Pac has been the same - he's moved up because he could no longer make the lighter weights. It's only recently that he's started looking for mega-fights with big name fighters above his natural weight limit. But he's not the first ATG to do it.
And the modern tendency to make fights with big names from neighbouring weight classes is a reflection on the way boxing has changed; and if the ATGs of the past had been boxing today, whose to say they'd have been any more likely to resist the commercial temptations of the modern sport than the boxers of today are?Last edited by Dave Rado; 05-20-2009, 04:55 PM.
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Originally posted by RRICAN View Posti know man, i followed his career till the de la hoya fight. Gatti i wouldnt count cuz we all know he was done, same as corrales, thats why i aint spending no money on this clown that could have chosen a better fight to come back.
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Originally posted by getsumbrah View Postlet me get this straight brahs,
its unfair to ask a guy who's had 27 fights at 140 pounds & 7 fights at 147 pounds to meet halfway, not even go to his original weight class......
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a guy who is 5'6 1/2 asian career featherweight who's had 1 fight at 135,140,147??????
who's really being unfair & b*tching out here?
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Originally posted by vaborikua View Postyea but if u see the pictures and his performance u can tell that at that weight he looked really drained in some pics he looked like he was an aids patient and was chinny and cant make the weight no more thats why he moved up it doesnt take a genius 2 see that but obviously u cant see it
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I think it speaks volumes that I don't see a lot of griping on this thread about Cotto fighting a "smaller" guy the way so many haters gripe about Mayweather fighting a "smaller" fighter. No one is calling Cotto names for not stepping up to fight Mosley again or Paul Williams.
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Originally posted by buckdacious View PostChosen a better fighter??? Hes the #2 boxer in the world. and I remeber when PPL said Marquez-Casaymor was gonna be boring too
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