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  • Pullcounter
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    #11
    Originally posted by gingeralbino
    i understand, cotto and mosley weighing in at 142/143 instead of 147 is ok by u then? u not think that puts them at a disadvantaage?
    well pac will be at a disadvantage when cotto and mosley become MWs over night.

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    • BmoreBrawler
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      #12
      Lol, Pac just got done beating the best 140lb fighter at his best weight, something Floyd did not do. This is a joke thread.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
        This thread is to criticize both Floyd and Manny.

        Why be called P4P best fighters, when you don't even fight a fighter at his best weight?

        You have Money Pacquiao fighting a weight-drained, dead De La Hoya at 147 which means absolutely nothing at that weight after Hoya not making it for almost a DECADE.

        You have Money Mayweather fighting a bloated up Lightweight that was moving up to JWW, and now he is making him come up to 147 to fight him there, which means nothing at all.

        Why are these guys called P4P best?
        If anyone is the P4P best fighter in the world it's JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ.

        Yeah props to Pacquiao for beating Hatton(already KO'd by FMJ) at his best weight, Barrera(Already lost badly to Junior Jones) at his best weight, and arguably beating Marquez, also in his best weight atm.
        Props to Floyd for beating Corrales, Castillo(2), and De La Hoya, Baldomir at their best weight.

        But now, they are not P4P best fighters, they are fighting with all the advantages on their side.

        JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ is the best P4P fighter, #1, undeniably. Arguably beat Money Pacquiao TWICE, KO'ed the two best Lightweights in his only two fights at Lightweight, and now is moving up to 147, skipping Junior Welterweight, to fight FMJ against all odds in a fight dubbed by many as a tune-up for Floyd.

        Floyd and Manny, get your game up and follow what JMM is doing. Roach, stop trying to be slick weight draining fighters for the "P4P #1 fighter in the world" Money Pacquiao.

        Who ever fights a real WW first, of FMJ and MP, is the best P4P fighter in the world. don't come with that bullspit of making it "fair" for Pacquiao because he is the "smaller" man and he can't fight at WW anymore(for some reason), and Floyd should fight SSM after fighting Pacquiao.


        Agree or Disagree?
        This is an unbiased post made for everybody to post their opinions on.
        Unbiased my ass...

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        • RodBarker
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          #14
          Originally posted by gingeralbino
          i understand, cotto and mosley weighing in at 142/143 instead of 147 is ok by u then? u not think that puts them at a disadvantaage?
          Off course it is does but which is the worse of two evils as this is not as much a handicap as allowing Cotto a 147 weigh-in so he can out weigh them in the actual fight by a huge margin coming at 160+ ,, how is you guys think that is ok for Floyd and Pac to give those guys such a big advantage , I see you fellas being more hate driven that fact driven .

          Go and read as much as you can about weigh-in weight versus fight weight because untill you understand that and how it works you can never fully understand boxing .

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          • darn
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            #15
            Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
            This thread is to criticize both Floyd and Manny.

            Why be called P4P best fighters, when you don't even fight a fighter at his best weight?

            You have Money Pacquiao fighting a weight-drained, dead De La Hoya at 147 which means absolutely nothing at that weight after Hoya not making it for almost a DECADE.

            You have Money Mayweather fighting a bloated up Lightweight that was moving up to JWW, and now he is making him come up to 147 to fight him there, which means nothing at all.

            Why are these guys called P4P best?
            If anyone is the P4P best fighter in the world it's JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ.

            Yeah props to Pacquiao for beating Hatton(already KO'd by FMJ) at his best weight, Barrera(Already lost badly to Junior Jones) at his best weight, and arguably beating Marquez, also in his best weight atm.
            Props to Floyd for beating Corrales, Castillo(2), and De La Hoya, Baldomir at their best weight.

            But now, they are not P4P best fighters, they are fighting with all the advantages on their side.

            JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ is the best P4P fighter, #1, undeniably. Arguably beat Money Pacquiao TWICE, KO'ed the two best Lightweights in his only two fights at Lightweight, and now is moving up to 147, skipping Junior Welterweight, to fight FMJ against all odds in a fight dubbed by many as a tune-up for Floyd.

            Floyd and Manny, get your game up and follow what JMM is doing. Roach, stop trying to be slick weight draining fighters for the "P4P #1 fighter in the world" Money Pacquiao.

            Who ever fights a real WW first, of FMJ and MP, is the best P4P fighter in the world. don't come with that bullspit of making it "fair" for Pacquiao because he is the "smaller" man and he can't fight at WW anymore(for some reason), and Floyd should fight SSM after fighting Pacquiao.


            Agree or Disagree?
            This is an unbiased post made for everybody to post their opinions on.
            so you want pacquiao to fight DLH at DLHs best weight.. what are you, crazy? DLHs best weight is 160lbs or more, the maximum weight manny could reach is only 148lbs. how do you think manny would do to get some extra lbs just to fight DLH at his best weight? eat meal 10x a day? or put some metal inside his belly? what a nonsense line of thinking?? BOBO

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            • studentofthegam
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              #16
              People kill me with this weight disadvantage thing. If u cant fight at a certain weight then dont sign the contract. If you do sign it and happen to get your ass whooped oh well, no excuses. Both MP and Pbf have taken on the best so how can either b discredited as P4P king. If Cotto doesnt get tkoed then he is in the discussion. JMM loses two close decisions but they are losses. My personal feelings are that PBF is still the best until he loses. Hey, for controversy sake I think he would destroy Paul Williams in 7 rounds.

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              • RodBarker
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                #17
                Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
                Lol, Pac just got done beating the best 140lb fighter at his best weight, something Floyd did not do. This is a joke thread.
                Im getting pretty sick of your bull**** ,,, Floyd KOed Hatton and Hatton weighed 153 Pac KOed Hatton and he weighed 153 so what the *** are you on about best weight as Hatton was his best fight weight with both ?

                would you like to debate me on the weight ?

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                • Doctor_Tenma
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by pacman777
                  your a closet mayweather licker... figures why you dont admit pac beat marquez and is true p4p champ
                  Lmao, listen to the guy

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                  • MR. V
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RodBarker
                    OBVIOUSLY NOT dont worry your not alone 90% of this board has no clue and then call themselves boxing fans lol .

                    ur so confused yourself. boxing fan doesnt equal boxing expert. big difference. once you realize the difference your statements will make more sense.

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by darn
                      so you want pacquiao to fight DLH at DLHs best weight.. what are you, crazy? DLHs best weight is 160lbs or more, the maximum weight manny could reach is only 148lbs. how do you think manny would do to get some extra lbs just to fight DLH at his best weight? eat meal 10x a day? or put some metal inside his belly? what a nonsense line of thinking?? BOBO
                      Mayweather was 148 against DLH and beat him at his best weight, Jr Mw.

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