Why be called P4P best when you don't even...

[Iceta]

I guess you respect Calzaghe then for beating the best at 168 when he was their then going to lhw to challenge bhop in Calzaghes first fight at lhw and beat bhop in a dirty messy fight.

That's such a simple-minded post I don't know where to begin. Joe fought in a weak division all of his career tanglin with Mario Viet a second time and getting a split decision over Robin Reid. Should people give this joker credit just because he got knocked on his ass and was awarded another split decision over a 43 year old fighter in the twilight of his career.

[RodBarker]

jmm is gonna be killed. but even still kevin, weight doesnt make a big difference from 160 on down. think about it, from 119 to 154, you have 7 weight classes, in only 35 lbs. Thats utterly rediculous. From 160 up, you have only 4 in like 65 lbs. So it really doesnt make a big diff. in the lower classes if you ask me.

I say this with respect , your 17 and have a lot to learn about weight in a fighter , the correct information is everywhere for the taking , but just to address your post briefly , weight MATTERS big time across the board , but it matters less the bigger the man is , that is why the divisions are split again in the lower weights because 7lb to a 130 fighter is like 14lb to a 175 fighter as its about an equal percentage of both in terms of mass ,, and then on top of this you have 130 weighed in fighters stepping into the ring at 147 and 175 fighters stepping 20lbs bigger at fight time , fight weight is about what they really are weigh-in weight is about manipulation of water in a 30hr weigh-in .

Like I said seek and get an understanding of weight and its real meaning to a fighter and you will look at boxing and certain fighters different than you do now .

[optkliluzn]

Jmm sucks period!

this thread is to criticize both floyd and manny.

Why be called p4p best fighters, when you don't even fight a fighter at his best weight?

You have money pacquiao fighting a weight-drained, dead de la hoya at 147 which means absolutely nothing at that weight after hoya not making it for almost a decade.

You have money mayweather fighting a bloated up lightweight that was moving up to jww, and now he is making him come up to 147 to fight him there, which means nothing at all.

Why are these guys called p4p best?
If anyone is the p4p best fighter in the world it's juan manuel marquez.

Yeah props to pacquiao for beating hatton(already ko'd by fmj) at his best weight, barrera(already lost badly to junior jones) at his best weight, and arguably beating marquez, also in his best weight atm.
Props to floyd for beating corrales, castillo(2), and de la hoya, baldomir at their best weight.

But now, they are not p4p best fighters, they are fighting with all the advantages on their side.

Juan manuel marquez is the best p4p fighter, #1, undeniably. Arguably beat money pacquiao twice, ko'ed the two best lightweights in his only two fights at lightweight, and now is moving up to 147, skipping junior welterweight, to fight fmj against all odds in a fight dubbed by many as a tune-up for floyd.

Floyd and manny, get your game up and follow what jmm is doing. Roach, stop trying to be slick weight draining fighters for the "p4p #1 fighter in the world" money pacquiao.

Who ever fights a real ww first, of fmj and mp, is the best p4p fighter in the world. Don't come with that bullspit of making it "fair" for pacquiao because he is the "smaller" man and he can't fight at ww anymore(for some reason), and floyd should fight ssm after fighting pacquiao.


Agree or disagree?
This is an unbiased post made for everybody to post their opinions on.

[Kevin Jesus]

Lol, Pac just got done beating the best 140lb fighter at his best weight, something Floyd did not do. This is a joke thread.

Man, are you ******, ignorant, ******ed, illiterate, or all of the aforementioned? Read the thread you dumb ****.

[SalSanchez]

Because they call the shots I pretty much guarantee you if JMM is in the same position he would do the same thing.

[skullduggery]

I say this with respect , your 17 and have a lot to learn about weight in a fighter , the correct information is everywhere for the taking , but just to address your post briefly , weight MATTERS big time across the board , but it matters less the bigger the man is , that is why the divisions are split again in the lower weights because 7lb to a 130 fighter is like 14lb to a 175 fighter as its about an equal percentage of both in terms of mass ,, and then on top of this you have 130 weighed in fighters stepping into the ring at 147 and 175 fighters stepping 20lbs bigger at fight time , fight weight is about what they really are weigh-in weight is about manipulation of water in a 30hr weigh-in .

Like I said seek and get an understanding of weight and its real meaning to a fighter and you will look at boxing and certain fighters different than you do now .

i know alot about weight in fights. i know that floyd mayweather makes the 147 limit comfortably, and i know that he doesnt gain over 2 lbs overnight. I know that juan manuel marquez weight 145 against pacquiao last march. I know that 3-4 lbs dont make a difference. just ask ricky hatton.

The point that i was making is this. David haye is moving up to fight klitchko right? many ppl think he will ko him right? hes 35 lbs heavier right? does that make a difference to you? not to me, because haye is simply better in my eyers. So y is it such a difference when mayweater does to marquez, what klitchko is doing haye?

And no disrespect, but you are obviously older than me. So i expect you to know that age doesnt mean a damn thing when it comes to being educated. Im old enough to read for myself, and learn just like you. So plz, dont be an ignorant adult and assume that im ill informed just because im young