Floyd Explains Why It Took Him Longer, to beat Hatton

[Pullcounter]

floyd was definitely disadvantaged against dlh, but floyd was teh favorite against dlh while pac was the underdog against dlh.

[skullduggery]

heres the truth.

who knows if pbf would have ko'd hatton sooner but one thing is for sure, there is a significant difference in 8 and 10 oz gloves.

let em know........ most ppl on these forums are blinded by hate

[Benny Leonard]

lmao, 2 ounces is not a big deal

If it wasn't they wouldn't have made fighters increase the glove size by 2 oz.

Floyd was actually the first person I heard come out against the 10oz gloves that Vegas wanted fighters to wear. He basically said it was messing with tradition.


I'm in favor of 8oz gloves for everybody. Maybe even 6oz gloves in some divisions.

[talip bin osman]

"When I fought Ricky Hatton, I had 10-ounce gloves on higher weight class,” said Mayweather Jr. in a report by Reuters.

“When I knocked out Ricky Hatton, I was stepping backwards with 10-ounce gloves,” said Mayweather Jr., who retired undefeated with 39 wins (25 knock outs).

he fought hatton in a weight class where the brit was less competetitive... MP beat hatton in a weight class where hatton is/was @ his best...

try harder floyd...

[Benny Leonard]

Floyd is more defensive, Pacquiao is more offensive. Roach's tactics also played a big part as he knew that exact punch would KO Ricky.

Agree: different ways of fighting. Pac was always going to KO Ricky faster because he was shooting for the KO from the start. Floyd was going to break down Hatton and then if the KO came, he would knock him out.

Maybe there is however something to fighting a fighter that is undefeated and has never been knocked out vs. a fighter on the slide who has a loss by KO.

Either way: Pac goes for the KO and Floyd goes for the Win.

[Benny Leonard]

he fought hatton in a weight class where the brit was less competetitive... MP beat hatton in a weight class where hatton is/was @ his best...

try harder floyd...

Floyd fought a healthier version of Hatton though. Hatton didn't have to drain his body to make weight and was undefeated at the time. Hatton weighs in at 140 on the scales and then rehydrates up in weight.

The one advantage Hatton had fighting at 147 against Floyd was that he didn't have to drain his body down to 140 for the scales and risk showing up flat if he didn't rehydrate properly. Hatton also didn't make the same mistake he made against Collozao (who was a legit WW unlike Floyd) by showing up at 158 for fight-time. He didn't bulk up again this time around for Floyd because he learned from his mistake; Team Hatton talked about this. He basically came in at his normal JrWW Fight-Time weight when fighting Floyd, who himself doesn't weigh over 150 by fight-time.

The only argument you can make is that at that exact point in time, when Floyd was fighting at WW and hadn't fought in a bit at 140, Floyd is healthy at 147 and could possibly risk showing up flat if he had to make weight at 140 because he wasn't used to dehydrating his body for the scales.

However, if we made the fight back when Floyd was fighting at 140, forget it; Floyd whoops that ass like he did Gatti since it was a better version of Floyd back then. It's also why Hatton didn't want a piece of him back then. Too good.

[talip bin osman]

Floyd fought a healthier version of Hatton though. Hatton didn't have to drain his body to make weight and was undefeated at the time. Hatton weighs in at 140 on the scales and then rehydrates up in weight.

The one advantage Hatton had fighting at 147 against Floyd was that he didn't have to drain his body down to 140 for the scales and risk showing up flat if he didn't rehydrate properly. Hatton also didn't make the same mistake he made against Collozao (who was a legit WW unlike Floyd) by showing up at 158 for fight-time. He didn't bulk up again this time around for Floyd because he learned from his mistake; Team Hatton talked about this. He basically came in at his normal JrWW Fight-Time weight when fighting Floyd, who himself doesn't weigh over 150 by fight-time.

The only argument you can make is that at that exact point in time, when Floyd was fighting at WW and hadn't fought in a bit at 140, Floyd is healthy at 147 and could possibly risk showing up flat if he had to make weight at 140 because he wasn't used to dehydrating his body for the scales.

However, if we made the fight back when Floyd was fighting at 140, forget it; Floyd whoops that ass like he did Gatti since it was a better version of Floyd back then. It's also why Hatton didn't want a piece of him back then. Too good.

healthier... ok if thats ur thing... but still...

ricky performs best @ 140... way better than he is/was @ 147...

he should have looked flat against malignaggi if he was getting unhealthier @ 140 man...

MP was at his first fight at 140 and was very unproven at that weight class...

PBF was @ his 3rd or fifth @ WW...

if PBF had only said MP hits harder, or he was trying to protect his brittle hands thats why it took longer for him to KO hatton id buy it right away...

[them_apples]

Pacquiao hits harder, all there is to it.

[Benny Leonard]

healthier... ok if thats ur thing... but still...

ricky performs best @ 140... way better than he is/was @ 147...

he should have looked flat against malignaggi if he was getting unhealthier @ 140 man...

MP was at his first fight at 140 and was very unproven at that weight class...

PBF was @ his 3rd or fifth @ WW...

if PBF had only said MP hits harder, or he was trying to protect his brittle hands thats why it took longer for him to KO hatton id buy it right away...

That's because at 147 he had to face a Bigger Fighter/legit WW like Collazo. Collazo is a skilled fighter that is a Southpaw and was a title holder. That's who Ricky fought in his first fight at 147. Same guy that gave Berto a tough test. This wasn't some past prime 140 pounder Ricky could bully around. It was a legit WW that was skilled and proved strong. And then he made the mistake of bulking up to 158 by fight-time which made him sluggish and tired as the fight went on. He didn't make that mistake against Floyd.

Floyd is who he fought next at 147. A fighter that is under 150 pounds come fight-night, just like many JrWW. Not a big WW like the others who blow up 10-20 pounds by fight-night.

Paulie was actually unhealthy himself. His hands have always plagued him. Going into that fight he couldn't get himself to throw punches in fear of breaking his hands. Not good for a figther and something that weighs heavily on fighters with brittle hands.


Hatton didn't look so good against a live fighter in Lazcano. Same fight people talked about Hatton being past his prime.

Here was the point at making the fight at 147: There is less risked in showing up flat for fight-night if you only have to dehydrate down fewer pounds to make weight at 147 as opposed to 140. Say you are 150 come fight-night for your JrWW fights. That's 10 pounds you have to lose for the scales and then 10 pounds you have to put back on. At 147, you only have to lose 3 pounds for the scales and can put that right back on in no time.


140 is the division he fights at but he doesn't weigh 140 come fight-night. Even Pac was 147 on fight-night when he fought Diaz at 135.



It wasn't the gloves and it wasn't the division as much as it was the styles of the fighters. Pac goes for the "KO" while Floyd's objective is the "W"

[studentofthegam]

Anybody that studies boxing knows that mayweather blistered hatton for 6 rounds before knocking him out. The fight wasnt boring and he wasnt hit much. Pac fought his best technically ever. I even said in the 1st round that he looks like floyd(who laid a counter punching blue print for whipping lil ricky). Pac hit him with a perfect punch and it happened to in the 2nd round.