Floyd Explains Why It Took Him Longer, to beat Hatton

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Floyd fought a healthier version of Hatton though. Hatton didn't have to drain his body to make weight and was undefeated at the time. Hatton weighs in at 140 on the scales and then rehydrates up in weight.

140 is hatton's best fighting weight. that's not even questionable.

The one advantage Hatton had fighting at 147 against Floyd was that he didn't have to drain his body down to 140 for the scales and risk showing up flat if he didn't rehydrate properly. Hatton also didn't make the same mistake he made against Collozao (who was a legit WW unlike Floyd) by showing up at 158 for fight-time. He didn't bulk up again this time around for Floyd because he learned from his mistake; Team Hatton talked about this. He basically came in at his normal JrWW Fight-Time weight when fighting Floyd, who himself doesn't weigh over 150 by fight-time.

that's not really an advantage or disadvantage

The only argument you can make is that at that exact point in time, when Floyd was fighting at WW and hadn't fought in a bit at 140, Floyd is healthy at 147 and could possibly risk showing up flat if he had to make weight at 140 because he wasn't used to dehydrating his body for the scales.

its possible that if floyd goes back down to 140 he won't perform as usual, but once acclimated he should be ok. that's what a tune up is for.

However, if we made the fight back when Floyd was fighting at 140, forget it; Floyd whoops that ass like he did Gatti since it was a better version of Floyd back then. It's also why Hatton didn't want a piece of him back then. Too good.

hatton cannot beat floyd in any division. But I doubt floyd gives hatton a gatti-esque beating.

[Burner]

Against a pure boxer like Floyd who isnt trying to kill you...the extra weight at 147 pounds helped Hatton.....

Against Pac.....coming in his natural weight class..didnt help him when Pac was trying to kill him.

[The Noose]

Was Floyd really stepping backward when he landed his check hook?

I think Floyd has toned down his silly smack talk now. He seemed very respectful towards JMM.

[Benny Leonard]

140 is hatton's best fighting weight. that's not even questionable.


that's not really an advantage or disadvantage


its possible that if floyd goes back down to 140 he won't perform as usual, but once acclimated he should be ok. that's what a tune up is for.


hatton cannot beat floyd in any division. But I doubt floyd gives hatton a gatti-esque beating.

140 is not Hatton's fighting-weight: 147+ is. 140 is just the division he fought in. Fighters are allowed to dehydrate their bodies to make weight and then rehydrate by fight-time. You know this.
Colloza > than the 140 pound fighters because of his size and skill. That's why Hatton had trouble...he fought a legit WW in his prime named Collazo and not some past prime 140 pound fighter. That's why Hatton struggled along with his mistake of bulking up to 158 by fight-time.


Floyd shouldn't go back down to 140. These fighters should just fight at their fight-time weight and stop bull****ting the public.

Floyd when he was fighting at 140 was better. He was faster and threw more often. He looked like he wanted to fight. Towards the end of his 147 pound days, he looked like he had enough and couldn't wait to go into retirement.

[Pullcounter]

140 is not Hatton's fighting-weight: 147+ is. 140 is just the division he fought in. Fighters are allowed to dehydrate their bodies to make weight and then rehydrate by fight-time. You know this.

obviously that's what I meant. 140 is hatton's best fighting weight.

Colloza > than the 140 pound fighters because of his size and skill. That's why Hatton had trouble...he fought a legit WW in his prime named Collazo and not some past prime 140 pound fighter. That's why Hatton struggled along with his mistake of bulking up to 158 by fight-time.

tszyu > collazo.

also collazo is a decent sized WW, while hatton would be a small WW.

Floyd shouldn't go back down to 140. These fighters should just fight at their fight-time weight and stop bull****ting the public.

too hard to change the system. sorry

Floyd when he was fighting at 140 was better. He was faster and threw more often. He looked like he wanted to fight. Towards the end of his 147 pound days, he looked like he had enough and couldn't wait to go into retirement.

true, floyd looked way better at 140

Was Floyd really stepping backward when he landed his check hook?

yes, you have to step back w/ the check hook cause the opponent is rushing in

I think Floyd has toned down his silly smack talk now. He seemed very respectful towards JMM.

my thoughts on floyd being respectful:

- its a mismatch and floyd has to hype up jmm to make it seem like a competitive fight

- floyd was surrounded by a million+ mexicans

- floyd is tired of being the villian and getting negative press, he wants to be a hero like pac.

Against a pure boxer like Floyd who isnt trying to kill you...the extra weight at 147 pounds helped Hatton.....

Against Pac.....coming in his natural weight class..didnt help him when Pac was trying to kill him.

it doesn't matter pac and floyd beat hatton regardless.

[Leatherface]

Was Floyd really stepping backward when he landed his check hook?

I think Floyd has toned down his silly smack talk now. He seemed very respectful towards JMM.

I noticed this too, hes definetly giving Marquez his props.

[talip bin osman]

That's because at 147 he had to face a Bigger Fighter/legit WW like Collazo. Collazo is a skilled fighter that is a Southpaw and was a title holder. That's who Ricky fought in his first fight at 147. Same guy that gave Berto a tough test. This wasn't some past prime 140 pounder Ricky could bully around. It was a legit WW that was skilled and proved strong. And then he made the mistake of bulking up to 158 by fight-time which made him sluggish and tired as the fight went on. He didn't make that mistake against Floyd.

Floyd is who he fought next at 147. A fighter that is under 150 pounds come fight-night, just like many JrWW. Not a big WW like the others who blow up 10-20 pounds by fight-night.

Paulie was actually unhealthy himself. His hands have always plagued him. Going into that fight he couldn't get himself to throw punches in fear of breaking his hands. Not good for a figther and something that weighs heavily on fighters with brittle hands.


Hatton didn't look so good against a live fighter in Lazcano. Same fight people talked about Hatton being past his prime.

Here was the point at making the fight at 147: There is less risked in showing up flat for fight-night if you only have to dehydrate down fewer pounds to make weight at 147 as opposed to 140. Say you are 150 come fight-night for your JrWW fights. That's 10 pounds you have to lose for the scales and then 10 pounds you have to put back on. At 147, you only have to lose 3 pounds for the scales and can put that right back on in no time.


140 is the division he fights at but he doesn't weigh 140 come fight-night. Even Pac was 147 on fight-night when he fought Diaz at 135.



It wasn't the gloves and it wasn't the division as much as it was the styles of the fighters. Pac goes for the "KO" while Floyd's objective is the "W"

to me my man?

its really either MP hits harder or PBF protects those brittle hands... just like u stated with malignaggi...

its one of those two or some degree of combination...

same pie no matter how u slice it...

[J.Dempsey]

"Marquez is a hell of a guy. A tough opponent who's been around the sport a long long time. They say to be the best, you have to beat the best. So we two are the best fighters in the sport right now, so when I come back, I don't want to fight a has-been. I want to fight one of the best in the sport. Marquez is one of the best in the sport," he said.

is it me or is PBF tryin to dismiss pacman? he havin subliminal digs at him? or is he tryin to boost up jmm so if he beats him it looks like he's beatin the best fighter out there? Pac's p4p #1 for a reason, no?

[ACHlLLES]

Styles make fights, what the hell is Floyd rambling on about? He isn't known for his power, he is no mike tyson or manny pacquiao. He is known as a defensive slick boxer, not a power puncher. He could knock out Marquez in the first round and it wouldn't mean squat diddly other then he picked a fight with someone who called a great small man...

[Papa Ace]

If FMJ uses 8 oz against Marquez, he should be KOing him 3 times in the 1st round or this is all bull**** !!!!!!!!!!!