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  • Originally posted by Klitschko2009 View Post
    You obviously don't know jack **** about the heavyweight division

    Arreola is a good fighter, but he's also a fat slob and has no defence

    Povetkin clearly beat Chambers....now Chambers is gonna get beat up by Dimitrenko.

    All of the best heavyweights are from Eastern Europe.

    You Americans have gone soft.
    The Big American Athletes just don't go into boxing anymore. They look for the greater opportunity elsewhere.
    But there may be something to the "gone soft" comment because Americans may have gone soft over the years. I blame the hippie movement and the feminists. A "Depression" would probably help actually toughen the Americans back up like it did prior to WW II, which I think helped prepare that Generation for that War and the World at that time.



    American HWs are a joke. They shouldn't even be discussed. I'm looking at Tunney's list right now to see what the rest of the World has to offer.

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    • Originally posted by Benny Leonard View Post
      The Big American Athletes just don't go into boxing anymore. They look for the greater opportunity elsewhere.
      Small American athletes didn't do well in boxing at the Olympics last year...

      Their only medal, one bronze, was won by their biggest boxer, Deontay Wilder.

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      • Originally posted by ~Tunney View Post
        He was the same age Vitali is now. He retired because he didn't want to face Vitali again.

        For some reason, you never acknowledge anything positive about Vitali, or Wlad, or Calzaghe, or Marciano, etc...
        Obviously you never read my posts or just pick and choose. I have said good things and bad things about each of the names you listed.


        Everybody ages different. You would know this if you knew anything about boxing....anything about Life.

        True, he didn't want to face Vitali again but "WHY?"

        Lewis didn't have the fight in him anymore. He was at the end of his career and he should have retired after Tyson. He was PAST HIS PRIME.

        He Beat Vitali and Retired.

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        • Originally posted by ~Tunney View Post
          Small American athletes didn't do well in boxing at the Olympics last year...

          Their only medal, one bronze, was won by their biggest boxer, Deontay Wilder.
          Boxing in general is pretty dead in America compared to back in the day. It's not like back in the day when you had loads of gyms and ****** kids only having opportunity to make a living by going into boxing. Different life now; many more opportunities in life and in sports.


          Plus, you can't go by that pussified version of boxing in the amteur system. That's not BOXING. Get back to the Original way of amateur fighting and we will have better prepared Pro fighters.

          Take the Helmets off and stop with the point sparring bull****. This is a Fight.

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          • LOL at the reputed American nationalist, Benny Leonard.

            This Yank is always making excuses

            Typical American excuse-making crybaby

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            • Like most of the other guys say, great role models but awful to watch.

              Wlad especially, It's like taking 12 rounds of Wlads jabs to my eyes...

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              • Originally posted by Benny Leonard View Post
                Obviously you never read my posts or just pick and choose. I have said good things and bad things about each of the names you listed.


                Everybody ages different. You would know this if you knew anything about boxing....anything about Life.

                True, he didn't want to face Vitali again but "WHY?"

                Lewis didn't have the fight in him anymore. He was at the end of his career and he should have retired after Tyson. He was PAST HIS PRIME.

                He Beat Vitali and Retired.
                Lewis cheated a lot in that fight, and the referee didn't do anything about it.

                Lennox held Vitali's arm and used his 4" reach advantage to repeatedly hit him in the kidneys. You can hear the thuds when watching the video. After the cut, Lewis rubbed his glove into Vitali's face and twisted it, to worsen the wound.

                And I never did see the punch that caused the initial cut, but I did see a headbutt from Lennox. That would mead a TD win for Vitali...

                As far as I'm concerned, VITALI WON THAT FIGHT.

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                • Originally posted by Klitschko2009 View Post
                  LOL at the reputed American nationalist, Benny Leonard.

                  This Yank is always making excuses

                  Typical American excuse-making crybaby
                  People like that will say ANYTHING, use any excuse, rather than give a European boxer the slightest bit of credit.

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                  • Originally posted by Klitschko2009 View Post
                    LOL at the reputed American nationalist, Benny Leonard.

                    This Yank is always making excuses

                    Typical American excuse-making crybaby
                    What excuses?

                    This has already been discussed about boxing in America.

                    You wouldn't no because you don't READ or pay attention to many factors that influence things in life.

                    Things change. They changed in America and it's a different way of life.

                    Many documentaries on this as well. They used to show on ESPN classics.

                    Go look things up for yourself with the way things changed if you don't live here or can't talk to Old-Timers.
                    Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-18-2009, 06:34 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Klitschko2009 View Post
                      LOL at the reputed American nationalist, Benny Leonard.

                      This Yank is always making excuses

                      Typical American excuse-making crybaby
                      im american, i have a ton of pride for my country.
                      and i have nothing against the kilt's, maybe after the haye fight i'll be a wlad fan, because haye will make him fight, even if haye gets KTFO, at the very least it should be entertaining.

                      but dont bash america, there's no need.

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