can calzaghe go through bhops and rjj resume undefeated?

[bsrizpac]

These threads are tedious as hell. I don't like the Joe C, and yea both were older, but Joe got wins on RJ and Bhop. It sucks but it's true. Now he's retired so cats need to let the **** go.

This logic is tedious. It's the Joe fans making ******ed claims about him beating old fighters meaning anything.

Or do you count Roy's win over Tito as some awesome win and a knock against Tito?

How about Tyson's loss to McBride?
Holyfield Valuev
Ali Spinks

etc.

Joe fans make the most ludicrous claims ever and have to invent fantasy matches because lets face it, in what should have been his SMW prime Joe was busy with the likes of mggggggggggrrrrrrrr mrrrrrrrrrrrrrccccccccccccccchmmmmmmmmm and the great evans ashira

[Breadbin]

What style? Chin up in the air or the thousand hand slaps?

Fight for 1min a round and lay on the ropes all fight = a loss to Calzaghe.

Roy fought can after bum after bouncer after trash collector because his management team knew he was utterly over-rated.

People go on like B-Hop was prime and that Toney never lost to a complete bum at the weight.

[nujabes77]

You see that's the difference between me and you: I look deeper into the issue. I guess Ali should accept his loss to Holmes and Berbick as being at his best too, right?

OK, I'll give you Pac; there are no excuses for his losses.

But for Roy, even Freddie Roach mentioned it.

You need to start reading more history, learn a little about nutrition, age, negative effects on hormone levels with training and nutrition and weight-loss, etc.
I'm no expert but I do bother to read. And, I've asked people in the field of nutrition and medical about it...as well as a bodybuilder (since they understand it all as well). History: Freddie brought this up with past fighters that have done the same and came crashing down. Look at Roy's age; look at his weight increase for Ruiz and how fast he had to lose the muscle weight. And then compare videos of him in that fight and before. He wasn't the same. You can't do what he did at that age, that much weight decrease in that short of a time period and expect to be healthy. Tarver found out as well. Oscar found out and many others.
Even in an interview leading up to Tarver I, there was an interview with Roy saying he was dieting hard and doing more road work than normal because the weight wasn't coming off like he wanted. HE WAS KILLING HIMSELF.

if we go by your logic, then there is no such thing as a legitimate win

tell me benny what is a legitimate win?

[bsrizpac]

Fight for 1min a round and lay on the ropes all fight = a loss to Calzaghe.

Roy fought can after bum after bouncer after trash collector because his management team knew he was utterly over-rated.

People go on like B-Hop was prime and that Toney never lost to a complete bum at the weight.

Name the bums or trash collectors. Joe's fans (aka morons) love saying this but can't even answer this specific question.

I can name all the trash on Joe's resume. It's a joke and hilarious

[MANGLER]

This logic is tedious. It's the Joe fans making ******ed claims about him beating old fighters meaning anything.

Or do you count Roy's win over Tito as some awesome win and a knock against Tito?

How about Tyson's loss to McBride?
Holyfield Valuev
Ali Spinks

etc.

Joe fans make the most ludicrous claims ever and have to invent fantasy matches because lets face it, in what should have been his SMW prime Joe was busy with the likes of mggggggggggrrrrrrrr mrrrrrrrrrrrrrccccccccccccccchmmmmmmmmm and the great evans ashira

Don't get it twisted homey. I think you're right. I'm just sayin who gives a **** at this point? Joe C is retired and cats shouldn't be worryin about him now one way or the other.

[sycomantz]

He doesn't get past Roy. Calzaghe never wanted a prime Roy Jones Jr. and I stick by that. That's why Calzaghe stayed at 168 and didn't come over here sooner.

thank you.

Cal. stayed out of the states for a reason then came in once everyone was no longer in their prime.

he wouldnt have sttood a chance against Prime RJJ and BHOP

Cal. is a ***** just like Lennox lewis

[bsrizpac]

Don't get it twisted homey. I think you're right. I'm just sayin who gives a **** at this point? Joe C is retired and cats shouldn't be worryin about him now one way or the other.

Don't ask me, I'm just having fun. Not worried about him, just educating some of his tard fans, which I admit is a near impossible task, but it is funny trying.

They are the ones that make absurd claims. Joe woulda coulda done this. His entire career is WOULD HAVE COULD HAVE. And then have the gall to say Roy fought "bums" and "trash collectors". Meanwhile they are ballswinging on a guy who faced the biggest collection of trash cans this side of the cookie monster.

[sycomantz]

prime roy is the only one who would beat calzaghe,no shame in that at all though.none of hopkins other opponents would give joe any trouble imo

haha@Prime Roy

[Breadbin]

thank you.

Cal. stayed out of the states for a reason then came in once everyone was no longer in their prime.

he wouldnt have sttood a chance against Prime RJJ and BHOP

Cal. is a ***** just like Lennox lewis

There are some ****** people on this forum bit i think you could have jusy over taken Brizpac as the dumbest **** on here.

[portuge puncher]

i highly doubt he could beat james toney at SMW, toney was a beast at that wieght.