can calzaghe go through bhops and rjj resume undefeated?

[nujabes77]

You mean "could"

Calzaghes style takes any Jones apart.

imo as well...

[bsrizpac]

imo as well...

Since you have all these excuses for your boyfriend, what excuse do you have ready made if Floyd kicks his ass? hmm?

[boxasmash]

yes...................

[Benny Leonard]

there are always excuses for every lose. i accept pac's you shoud to with rjj

to say that pac got ktfo twice in his prime is wrong, you i know it. rjj otoh lost to tarver in his prime, tarver just had thte style to beat roy or make him look over the hill

You see that's the difference between me and you: I look deeper into the issue. I guess Ali should accept his loss to Holmes and Berbick as being at his best too, right?

OK, I'll give you Pac; there are no excuses for his losses.

But for Roy, even Freddie Roach mentioned it.

You need to start reading more history, learn a little about nutrition, age, negative effects on hormone levels with training and nutrition and weight-loss, etc.
I'm no expert but I do bother to read. And, I've asked people in the field of nutrition and medical about it...as well as a bodybuilder (since they understand it all as well). History: Freddie brought this up with past fighters that have done the same and came crashing down. Look at Roy's age; look at his weight increase for Ruiz and how fast he had to lose the muscle weight. And then compare videos of him in that fight and before. He wasn't the same. You can't do what he did at that age, that much weight decrease in that short of a time period and expect to be healthy. Tarver found out as well. Oscar found out and many others.
Even in an interview leading up to Tarver I, there was an interview with Roy saying he was dieting hard and doing more road work than normal because the weight wasn't coming off like he wanted. HE WAS KILLING HIMSELF.

[bsrizpac]

You see that's the difference between me and you: I look deeper into the issue. I guess Ali should accept his loss to Holmes and Berbick as being at his best too, right?

OK, I'll give you Pac; there are no excuses for his losses.

But for Roy, even Freddie Roach mentioned it.

You need to start reading more history, learn a little about nutrition, age, negative effects on hormone levels with training and nutrition and weight-loss, etc.
I'm no expert but I do bother to read. And, I've asked people in the field of nutrition and medical about it...as well as a bodybuilder (since they understand it all as well). History: Freddie brought this up with past fighters that have done the same and came crashing down. Look at Roy's age; look at his weight increase for Ruiz and how fast he had to lose the muscle weight. And then compare videos of him in that fight and before. He wasn't the same. You can't do what he did at that age, that much weight decrease in that short of a time period and expect to be healthy. Tarver found out as well. Oscar found out and many others.

lol@him reading. He's just another nuthugging fangirl. Never boxed. Never researched. Just spewing bull****.

British fan: YOU CAN now see why I find Calzaghe fans the biggest douches- they make up the most lies, the most ASSUMPTIONS (since Joe never DID anything worth talking about they have to talk about fantasy matchups) and just generally tend to not know **** about the sport.

See above.

[bsrizpac]

You see that's the difference between me and you: I look deeper into the issue. I guess Ali should accept his loss to Holmes and Berbick as being at his best too, right?

OK, I'll give you Pac; there are no excuses for his losses.

But for Roy, even Freddie Roach mentioned it.

You need to start reading more history, learn a little about nutrition, age, negative effects on hormone levels with training and nutrition and weight-loss, etc.
I'm no expert but I do bother to read. And, I've asked people in the field of nutrition and medical about it...as well as a bodybuilder (since they understand it all as well). History: Freddie brought this up with past fighters that have done the same and came crashing down. Look at Roy's age; look at his weight increase for Ruiz and how fast he had to lose the muscle weight. And then compare videos of him in that fight and before. He wasn't the same. You can't do what he did at that age, that much weight decrease in that short of a time period and expect to be healthy. Tarver found out as well. Oscar found out and many others.
Even in an interview leading up to Tarver I, there was an interview with Roy saying he was dieting hard and doing more road work than normal because the weight wasn't coming off like he wanted. HE WAS KILLING HIMSELF.

Look at 6:40 in that video. then look at Roy in Tarver 1,2.


Then you can clearly see that pacfan is a moron.

[Dynamite Kid]

No chance.

If he could do that, that would mean he is better fighter than Hopkins and Jones which he is not. Hopkins would of beaten him by UD, if Hopkins had any of his physical prime left. He would of been competitive with Jones because of his Southpaw stance, but he still would of lost clear decision.

Calzaghe is not on the level of Mike McCallum let alone prime Jones and Hopkins.

[deezdominates]

Calzaghe fans. Wow. This is what they will have to do for the next 20 yrs until we all forget about joe and his GOAT record. Who cares about Joe, i mean him his dad and his fans self proclaim him the greatest. The legend killer, who the FCK are they kidding. I can't believe you sheeple buy into his record and him just cause he's your countryman. And even if hes' not, how the hell can you like his style? Honestly

Calzaghe doesn't make it past the 1st rd with a prime roy. Roy would have finished him after he dropped him. Ruiz would have laughed in joes face at the onslaught of his slaps. But this is ****** to even discuss, because we all know Joe hasn't and would not have fought any of bhop and jones tougher competition. (unless they're 40)

I will leave it at this. People will remember joe had an undefeated record, and might be the best fighter from his island. But they won't remember that he was an ATG like enzo and you fans think. When joe was in the spotlight for like what 32 months? No one even cared or wanted to see him. How do you think history will treat him when he's been gone for 10 plus yrs? People will remember jones and hopkins for being great and showing it in the ring, while calzaghe has to shout to us that he's a legend, with the help of enzo and his sheeple. See the difference.

[MANGLER]

These threads are tedious as hell. I don't like the Joe C, and yea both were older, but Joe got wins on RJ and Bhop. It sucks but it's true. Now he's retired so cats need to let the **** go.

[Breadbin]

No chance.

If he could do that, that would mean he is better fighter than Hopkins and Jones which he is not. Hopkins would of beaten him by UD, if Hopkins had any of his physical prime left. He would of been competitive with Jones because of his Southpaw stance, but he still would of lost clear decision.

Calzaghe is not on the level of Mike McCallum let alone prime Jones and Hopkins.

McCallum is better than Jones and Hopkins and on a par with Calzghe.