Why is Barrera and Morales considered shot when they faced Pacquiao?

[KILLA RIGHT]

His best win i still say is mab because he was the closest to his prime.jmm beat him morales,and oscar were way passed there prime

[WhoreUs]

show proof of marquez turning down a rematch with pacquiao, goldenboy and toprank not doin buisness with eachother is not the same as someone turning down a fight

let me look. let me try to find an article from 2004.

pacquiao wasn't with top rank yet. he was still with muhammad.

it was right after pacquiao-marquez 1. hbo offered both fighters 750k a piece but marquez turned it down because he felt he should get paid more.

that's when he ended up fighting his mandatory chris john instead.

people forget that.

marquez has only been chasing pacquiao recently. after pacquiao became big money.

[Guest]

Barrera was shot even before the first Morales fight.
A lot of people were saying that even back then.

[winac]

i re-read it. i know what you posted.

you're complaining that he fought the loser of raheem-morales , barrera-morales 3.

i already explained why it happened that way.

raheem-morales was a tuneup for pac-morales 2. pac-velazquez was the co-main event of that card. the fight was already made. even though morales lost , arum decided to go ahead with the rematch anyway. besides he had to avenge his loss.


why the hell did floyd fight zab after zab lost to baldomir? because the fight was already planned! and zab was more money than baldomir.

the reason he fought morales after morales lost to barrera is because barrera didn't want a rematch. plus they just fought a year earlier.

the reason for all the delays on fighting barrera and marquez was those guys turned down the immediate rematch. barrera had a rematch clause which he refused to use. marquez turned down the rematch. also because later on pac was with top rank and those guys were gbp and top rank and gbp weren't doing business and was suing each other.

those guys only started calling pacquiao out AFTER the trilogy with morales did so well in ppv. because now fighting pacquiao means money.

i know what you wrote and i disagree with everything you wrote.

like i said......if you were following boxing at the time closely you would know why things happened the way they did.

looking up boxrec doesn't tell the whole story.

i'm done with this.

You,rE an idiot, I know why they weren't made but I am saying that regardless of anything in the ENTIRE WORLD, they were fought at the wrong time for Pac to claim his opponents were great. I'M GIVING YOU ALL MY POINTS FOR ******ITY.

[KING 2K10]

You,rE an idiot, I know why they weren't made but I am saying that regardless of anything in the ENTIRE WORLD, they were fought at the wrong time for Pac to claim his opponents were great. I'M GIVING YOU ALL MY POINTS FOR ******ITY.

winac...Bro...I'd feel very offended if you gave him the points I gave you...If anything, give them back to me

[winac]

haha sorry man, I had to I can't believe his ignorance. Don't worry I'll upload a load RJ fights for you. What ones you missing?

[WhoreUs]

You,rE an idiot, I know why they weren't made but I am saying that regardless of anything in the ENTIRE WORLD, they were fought at the wrong time for Pac to claim his opponents were great. I'M GIVING YOU ALL MY POINTS FOR ******ITY.

you're the idiot.

you can't just fight everyone whenever you want.

pacquiao was in NO POSITION to make those fights happen!

he had to fight with morales choice of gloves for god's sake! that's how low his bargaining power was.

pacquiao didn't have the power he has now to make whatever fight he wants. he wasn't a BIG NAME yet. he didn't become a big draw 'til AFTER the morales fights did so well on ppv.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

PAC was shot after torrecampo...what's the big deal?

[hugh grant]

Whether they were shot or not is open to discussion but can never be proved. But Pac still had to do the business and turn up on the night. I saw footage of Pac and barrear the other day and was suprised to see Barrera so fresh faced and young. That is how he was looking in his prime, and not the barrera you saw against Khan.

Pac would have beat them on their best day. He lost against Morales.., not because Morales was younger, but because Pac wasnt as good then as he is now.

[winac]

you're the idiot.

you can't just fight everyone whenever you want.

pacquiao was in NO POSITION to make those fights happen!

he had to fight with morales choice of gloves for god's sake! that's how low his bargaining power was.

pacquiao didn't have the power he has now to make whatever fight he wants. he wasn't a BIG NAME yet. he didn't become a big draw 'til AFTER the morales fights did so well on ppv.

I know he wasn't!!!!!!