Mayweather not eager to face pacquiao if arum is involved

[FLY TY]

This isnt exactly a fair thing to say, do you think oscar overvalued his worth? Floyd is self promoted because he wanted to control his own destiny, MANY fighters leave promoters to do their own thing. You may say floyd over valued his worth but in the end he got the money and the fame he wanted that he wasnt going to get under arum. Not to mention, Arum wouldnt even let his other money fighters near mayweather until he left, when he posed that dubious 8million offer to margarito/mayweather. Even then to THIS DAY arum has never served up cotto, i dont care about the talk or heresay, not one single offer.

Floyd was easily the best fighter at top rank, and also arums top fighter for years and he was basically put on the backburner promotion wise and i think he just got tired of it.

Also, i think floyd doesnt have this huge over value like you say, he was reasonable with hatton, he was reasonable with de la hoya with the first fight and he was reasonable with golden boy and Jmm, i seriously think you are putting too much stock in what he says and not enough into what he actually does.

cosign.....it's no wonder why all arum's top dogs end up leaving him......cotto's next.

[WhoreUs]

cosign.....it's no wonder why all arum's top dogs end up leaving him......cotto's next.

his top dogs leave him because bob is good at his job.

he made oscar , floyd and now pac superstars.

superstars that can now get big money paydays without his services.

i don't know when pac's contract ends but if he was still fighting by the time his contract is up , he'd probably go solo as well since his name is big enough.

[El Jesus]

the story is bob doesn't want to deal with haymon nor don king (floyd was gonna sign with don upon returning)

from what i read that's why gbp will be involved for floyd's side in floyd-pac.

i read the article a while back before all the hype and bs started coming out from both camps so i trust it more than the rest.

i believe floyd-pac will happen either next or maybe 1 more fight before.

ACK! i meant to say al haymon, let me go back and edit that

[WhoreUs]

ACK! i meant to say al haymon, let me go back and edit that

lol

i know that's who you meant.

[El Dominicano]

his top dogs leave him because bob is good at his job.

he made oscar , floyd and now pac superstars.

superstars that can now get big money paydays without his services.

i don't know when pac's contract ends but if he was still fighting by the time it ended , he'd probably go solo as well since his name is big enough.

He should buy out of his contract, fuck Arum, nothing wrong with biting the hand that feeds you, it ain't like Arum don't got money

[kayjay]

Oscar will get his smelly fingers in the middle of it.

[WhoreUs]

He should buy out of his contract, fuck Arum, nothing wrong with biting the hand that feeds you, it ain't like Arum don't got money

tbh i trust bob more than i trust pac's filipino camp.

that's a scary thought......

thank god for freddie.

[El Jesus]

How can he control his own destiny when he has to still deal with other promoters to get a fight? That is being short sighted. He left Bob for multiple reasons. Money was one of them, but also because he did not like the opponents Bob had lined up for him. Bad blood brewed between them because Arum and him had friction on multiple areas. Bob says Floyd wanted to cheery pick. Floyd says Bob did not pay him enough.

Not every fight can be a mega fight. Remember why Floyd retired. He retired because nobody wanted to pay him. It will happen again unless he comes back down to earth. 15 million+ to fight JMM? I guarantee you that Oscar is only paying Floyd that much in the hope that JMM wins and becomes a PPV fighter himself. They are not going to make a lot of money from that fight. They consider this fight an investment only.

i respect your opinion though but i dont agree, i like this post far more than i do the other **** that just filled the thread. The problem is the idea of floyd "cherry picking" doesnt make much sense, was he cherry picking attempted fights with hatton, cotto? because those were the two guys he wanted other than oscar.

[FLY TY]

Mayweather will have to make sacrifices. Pac is P4P No. 1. He can face all the top contenders and get more money and a lot of credit for his wins. Floyd needs Manny, fact. Mayweather can forget about getting the lions share in this one, he can probably get 50/50 at best. Knowing Bob Arum he would make Mayweather settle for 55/45 in Pac's favour.
Pac doesn't need him, he can face Valero or Cotto or whoever he wants. Floyd will have to fight a real Welterweight like Mosley or Cotto or someone, which he does not want to do.

arum won't MAKE mayweather settle for anything......he couldn't MAKE him settle while they were together......

bottom line is, you're wrong. both fighters need each other, because they won't be able to make the kind of money they'd make together, by fighting any other fighter. manny can get other fights, sure, but he wont be making the $$$ he'd make fighting against mayweather....

you idiots wanna keep screaming, manny's p4p this and that.....but that has nothing to do with it. mayweather will be able to get money fights, aside from pacquiao, and make more money than pacquiao at the same time, so i find the notion that "mayweather needs pacquaio," completely laughable.

case in point - mayweather is making how much fighting marquez????

how much did pacquiao make fighting marquez??? and don't forget, this is mayweather's first fight, after being gone for two years.....

[WhoreUs]

Oscar will get his smelly fingers in the middle of it.

he already has.

before coming out of retirement floyd's options are hatton , pac , jmm , cotto , shane and marg (before the plaster incident of course)

all are gbp or top rank. all can also have had big fights with each other.

it's in floyd's interest to be involved with one of those camps. you know damn sure it won't be top rank.

floyd will be doing business with gbp for now.