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  • ßringer
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    #51
    Originally posted by D-Omonist
    I see where you are coming from, but if Mosley, Cotto or May fight and one takes down the other two. Where does that boxer stand? That boxer would be the best WW. I don't give a d@mn who beat who in the past.
    I agree, but that hasn't happened.

    Cotto lost to Margs but beat Mosley
    Margs beat Cotto but lost to Mosley

    We need Mosley/Cotto II to settle it.

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      #52
      Originally posted by The_Bringer
      Then can hold a grudge, can't they?

      Or at least they do when it comes to boxing.

      ****, I still get into arguments when one of them sees me talking about Hopkins. And that flag **** was almost 8 years ago!



      Yeah, that was something I was noticing early on as well : Tony's uppercuts. He literally could not miss them, especially on the inside and when Cotto had his back on the ropes.

      Cotto's not a great mover, either. He's good at sticking and moving, and I think he does that very well. But against a pressure fighter like Margarito, his legs can't handle it. He needs to tune up his defense a bit more to compensate for that.
      I live around Boricuas and while they are cool people, they love to run their mouths non stop. They won't let **** go and to be honest, never ever like to give props to anyone who isn't Puerto Rican.

      I get my hair cut in a PR barber shop and I won so much money....haha The thing is, they still wouldn't give any Mexican fighter any credit.

      I go back to LA and I talk to Mexican dudes that give Cotto, Trinidad etc tons of credit. Different culture I guess.....whatever it's all good I love everyone.

      Cotto can't move like Mosley, your right. Mosley against Cotto decided to stand and fight with him, why I will never know. Macho thing, whatever but I think if Mosley would have moved like he did vs Marg, he would have beaten Cotto.

      He fought the exact fight Cotto wanted and almost beat him.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Boricua78
        Cotto cracked it for him first all Mosley had to do is hit the target and destroyed.
        No, he didn't.

        I like Cotto, but there's no way he cracked Tony's chin.

        If he had, Margarito wouldn't have held up as long as he did against Mosley. For fuck's sake he was eating right hand counters from Shane that would've dropped a horse from the opening bell.

        And he kept eating those bombs for 9 rounds before the referee stepped in and stopped it.

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          #54
          Originally posted by The Dapeedreean
          This is the video they see every night in their nightmares.
          This is a black op against the Cotto Cartel. You just got blind sided.

          Puro special ops baby!!!

          I still can't believe people in here still say Margarito didn't cheat. Look at his face just with 2 or 3 punches he has never in his entire life done what he did to Cotto with a few punches on the face. He's guilty as charge. No respect for Margarito.
          Last edited by Boricua78; 05-08-2009, 03:58 PM. Reason: grammar

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            #55
            Originally posted by The_Bringer
            I agree, but that hasn't happened.

            Cotto lost to Margs but beat Mosley
            Margs beat Cotto but lost to Mosley

            We need Mosley/Cotto II to settle it.
            I don't understand why we need Mosley/Cotto II to settle it. Cotto won a close fight. Mosley needs him more.

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              #56
              Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
              I live around Boricuas and while they are cool people, they love to run their mouths non stop. They won't let **** go and to be honest, never ever like to give props to anyone who isn't Puerto Rican.

              I get my hair cut in a PR barber shop and I won so much money....haha The thing is, they still wouldn't give any Mexican fighter any credit.

              I go back to LA and I talk to Mexican dudes that give Cotto, Trinidad etc tons of credit. Different culture I guess.....whatever it's all good I love everyone.

              Cotto can't move like Mosley, your right. Mosley against Cotto decided to stand and fight with him, why I will never know. Macho thing, whatever but I think if Mosley would have moved like he did vs Marg, he would have beaten Cotto.

              He fought the exact fight Cotto wanted and almost beat him.
              Yeah, Shane could've gotten the decision but he decided to fight Cotto's fight and he ended up losing a narrow decision.

              What surprised me most in that fight was the way Miguel outjabbed Shane. Mosley barely even threw an effective jab, he was mostly pawing with it all night.

              He was pawing with it against Margarito as well, but when he did it with Tony, it was usually as a distraction. (Like pawing to the body to distract him and land upstairs.)

              I'd favor Shane to beat Cotto in a rematch.

              A lot of people seem to have forgotten how close taht first fight was. It was a clear Cotto win, but it was as close as a clear win can get.

              Something's different about Shane since that Tony fight though.

              It might be 'roids.

              It might just be that he's extremely pissed off about his divorce.

              Or it might just be a sudden burst of youthful energy in the twilight of his career.

              Whatever the case is, I know I wouldn't want to fight that beast anytime soon.

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                #57
                Originally posted by D-Omonist
                I don't understand why we need Mosley/Cotto II to settle it. Cotto won a close fight. Mosley needs him more.
                Well Mosley is the champ and did it by beating the guy that beat Cotto. I think it could make for an interesting re-match.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by D-Omonist
                  I don't understand why we need Mosley/Cotto II to settle it. Cotto won a close fight. Mosley needs him more.
                  It's simple, really.

                  Cotto and Shane had a close fight. Cotto was the clear winner, 115-113 on my card.

                  Cotto got destroyed by Margarito.

                  Mosley destroyed Margarito.

                  Therefore a rematch is needed.

                  Hell, I wanted to see them rematch each other long before Margarito even got back into the picture.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by The_Bringer
                    I'll let you in on a little scret : There is no "best" Welterweight.

                    Floyd fights there, but he doesn't want to face legit Welters. So he's out of the question.

                    Everybody else is busy playing leapfrog with each other.

                    Mosley lost to Cotto but beat Margarito
                    Cotto lost to Margarito but beat Mosley and Quintana
                    Quintana lost to Cotto but beat Williams
                    Williams beat Margarito but lost to Quintana
                    Clottey lost to Margarito

                    WTF?
                    I see where you are coming from ...but I feel if Cotto could get past Clottey thats got to give him the edge over all the others....whith his sole loss being under heavy scrutiny of cheating by Margarito...

                    Check the Resume

                    Q
                    ZAb
                    Mosley
                    MArgarito
                    Clottey
                    Mosley/Pacman/James Browns son/Hatton/Pwill





                    IMO if goes 5 out of 4 ...with that kind of competition there's no way you can't make him King at WW


                    1.Q....say what you want about Q but he went on to become a champion by whooping on the punisher for 12 rounds in a 1 sided boxing clinic winning almost every exchange in every round....height disadvantage

                    2.Zab...brutal K.O 1 of the best fights of the year....same size

                    3. Mosley...A amazing fight with ebb and flow...with beautiful combination's....both men showed true grit and Cotto Pulled out the UD...height disadvantage

                    4. Margarito....Incredible skill shown by Cotto in Defeat against a man that would not yield...who's pride we all thought would not let him be hurt or show pain..."we thought"...Cotto at a severe height advantage....And his only loss is at least under su****ion of being bull****...also Cotto fought the wrong fight and his pride would not let him clinch..

                    5. Joshua Clottey....a champion belt holder stripped by his organization...A fight that the fans wanted... in know way an easy fight by any means no excuses made about size or strength...It's just this is the next guy...ok...bring him in here....height disadvantage
                    Last edited by BOOMbip; 05-08-2009, 04:11 PM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The_Bringer
                      It's simple, really.

                      Cotto and Shane had a close fight. Cotto was the clear winner, 115-113 on my card.

                      Cotto got destroyed by Margarito.

                      Mosley destroyed Margarito.

                      Therefore a rematch is needed.

                      Hell, I wanted to see them rematch each other long before Margarito even got back into the picture.
                      Agreed a rematch is needed....But Cotto calls the shots...Purse wise and location wise.

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