It's funny now Pacquiao's last 3 wins were "easy fights"

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  • KRITKL
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    #51
    Originally posted by SekondzOut
    word around the boxing world is that Manny has gotten better in each fight since his 2nd fight with JMM.......ok break it down.......Diaz is not in JMM's skill class and thats FACT!........DLH was physically unable to perform like DLH is known for.....thats FACT!!!!.......Hatton is not on JMM's level and thats FACT!!!........if you take 3 lesser opponents than the last guy to trouble you......you SHOULD look good!........if you can get past the hype you'll see that these were EASY fights disguised by excellent promotion.......I dont wanna sound like I'm hatin' on Pac because I really do like him but I call a spade a spade.........lets just see whats next or who's next on Pac's plate........Arum screamin' Cotto .......Cotto under 147 aint Cotto
    Not that many boxer are at JMM level, he is the #2 p4p. The thing that is suprising people is how easy he won against not as skilled but bigger fighters. So who should he fight because everyone below JMM is an easy fight?

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    • hi-five
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      #52
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981

      People love dominating preformances though, I call this Mike Tyson disease. I look to exploit it in ******** on boxing, so keep riding high on Pacman please~.
      Then you must have a pretty long losing streak there!! Do bet with actual money or just e-points?

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      • Gutz
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        #53
        Originally posted by aether
        here's the thing with pac..

        he always does something that shocks everyone, but after some time, people find something to downplay his win

        with ledwaba, ledwaba was unprepared (even though he had like two weeks notice before the fight, and his first fight at US)

        with barrera, he caught him in a bad night (even though barrera was p4p with wins over hamed and morales)

        with morales, cause he was shot (even though he knocked him out. twice. nobody knocks out morales, and he was NOT shot at the second fight)

        with marquez, well, he lost both fights (even though they were close as ****, and he did knock him down four times, plus marquez' style is like kryptonite to pac's)

        with diaz, cause diaz is a bum (even though this was pac's first fight at 135, and diaz is at least a top 5-10 lightweight at that time)

        with delahoya, its because dlh was weight drained (even though no respectable boxing expert gave him a chance, and he like jumped two ****ing divisions)

        with hatton, well i don't what's the excuse there, cause he is undefeated at 140, his only loss is againts mayweather. not shot. not weight drained.

        there you go.... see the excuses? pac's resume is one of the most impressive i have seen in an active. never ducked anyone (don't say holt, campbell, guzman, or valero you ******s).
        Great post..

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        • villa04
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          #54
          Originally posted by aether
          most of those who discredit are ******ed gay-ass floyd fans who can't accept the fact that pac is now considered greater than floyd.

          its funny though. floyd announced his unretirement during the day of the pac-hatton fight, saying he's the back and the best or some **** like that. then pac destroyed ricky in two rounds. must have shut him up...
          i was die hard ,floyd is unstoppable until manny gave the boxing world a reality check

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          • The Gambler1981
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            #55
            Originally posted by hi-five
            Then you must have a pretty long losing streak there!! Do bet with actual money or just e-points?
            I gamble for real~. I am doing just fine with my current system (being patient and only betting when I feel the odds are at a level that is good for me, in boxing this happeans a decent ammout).

            Watchin fights is great but watching fight when you have money riding on them makes it so much better. Then I can enjoy the fight over and over in my head as I blow my winning at the strip club~.

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            • baracuda
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              #56
              Originally posted by The_Golden_Boi
              Well truth be told De La Hoya was ****e and couldn't do nothing he was a waste of space in the fight, but i'm not discrediting the fact Pacquiao beat him, when all said and done the name says it all.
              The Ricky Hatton fight was in my eyes worse than ever wasn't worthy of a PPV but not because of Pacquiao but because Ricky never really looked himself after mayweather and doesn't deserve the PPV.
              Pacquiao made the fights look easy, in my eyes he was the better fighter in both those fights and i aint saying if De La Hoya or Hatton was at there best then he would of lost, i still think he would of won but it might of took him longer!
              But if you watched 24/7 you would see that there was problems in the training camp of the Hatton. But still i aint taking the win away from Pacquiao he was great on the night!
              I still think Hatton should of stayed with Billy Graham, he showed no improvments in his game when he went to Floyd Sr.

              But in the end of the day, they was easy fights for him not because he is a rubbish fighter but because De La Hoya and Hatton both wern't at there best!

              Pac-Man is still a great fighter though and doesn't need to prove himself after these easy wins!
              theres still bitterness in it!...

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                #57
                Originally posted by jching
                The truth is though, now the dust has settled on the Pac-Hatton fight, I think Roach is actually very clever when it comes to choosing the exact opponent for Manny to look really good against.

                Roach will never let Manny fight at 147 again, as he knows he chose the only fighter, DLH, who Manny could easily beat, look really good in doing so and on paper it sounds pretty amazing.

                Choosing Hatton, although considered by some as the best fighter at 140, was again a really clever decision. Roach knew Hatton was defensively incapable, was past his best after the Mayweather loss and was someone who, again, Manny would look good beating. Roach made the prediction of a Manny win within 3 rounds, because he knew Hatton doesn't have the defensive abilities to cope with Manny's speed and would most likely underestimate his power. Although it is still an impressive win, it sounds better on paper than it actually is.

                Roach wants Manny to move on and fight the best, but won't let them anywhere near Manny at their own weights. Cotto, Mosely, Mayweather will all have to move down in weight to fight Manny, giving him an advantage. If Roach is so confident in his fighter, then why not fight them at their own weight? If he's not good enough to fight these guys, then go back down to lightweight or beat the best at light-welter.

                It's a very clever move by Roach and Arum, choosing opponents who Manny can look good against, create an advantage for Manny and give him a better chance of getting a big name on his resume. They are trying to sculpt him into the greatest fighter of all time in doing this, and so far they are succeeding.
                let it all out!...pac is the best right now plain and simple!

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                • playaballer1
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by baracuda
                  theres still bitterness in it!...
                  I was about to say that LOL

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                  • baracuda
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by jching
                    Exactly, Manny would fight these guys at their own weights and would stand a chance at beating them too. So that's why I'm a little bit pissed at Roach and Arum for making a way for these justified excuses after a Manny win. I give him props for beating Hatton at 140 in a way others couldn't, but as Roach said prior to the fight, he was tailor made for Pac.
                    your such a crybaby!....

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                    • baracuda
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      To me one of the biggest mistakes boxing fans make is giving fighters to much credit for fights where they recieve little or no resistence. To me those are guys you should beat and look good against, which is what Manny has done.

                      To me you really judge a fighter by the fights where they have something to overcome, now the opponent has to be able to bring that out of a fighter this it is not Manny's fault.


                      People love dominating preformances though, I call this Mike Tyson disease. I look to exploit it in ******** on boxing, so keep riding high on Pacman please~.
                      to me youre full of it!...go take a **** you might feel better!

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