Buncey's Chad Dawson Rant

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  • egreezy
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    #31
    Originally posted by The_Visitation
    'Deserved'?! Is that a joke? If not, in a thread full of BS, that really takes the biscuit. Calzaghe wanted the RJJ fight, because he wanted to fight and beat Jones. Indeed the pair of them wanted ir so much they dispensed with the usual middle-men and agreed the whole thing, including a straight 50/50 split, over their cellphones.

    When the RJJ fight was arranged 'Bad Chad' (and, as I've said, i am a fan) had just won his first belt in a highly debatable win over Johnson, the only name on his record at that time. Do I really have to spell out Jones' record!!
    LOL he took the belt from Adamek and beat Harding before this. Johnson wasn't his first significant fight.

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      #32
      Originally posted by egreezy
      LOL he took the belt from Adamek and beat Harding before this. Johnson wasn't his first significant fight.
      I didn't say it was. But neither were 'names', including Adamek at the time. Think about it... are you really saying Calzaghe was thinking "Jeez... I really must fight this guy, he's beaten Adamek" when RJJ was the fight he was after?

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        #33
        Originally posted by The_Visitation
        I didn't say it was. But neither were 'names', including Adamek at the time. Think about it... are you really saying Calzaghe was thinking "Jeez... I really must fight this guy, he's beaten Adamek" when RJJ was the fight he was after?
        It isn't about fighting Jones or Dawson as he could of fought both. He retired so the point is moot either way but lets be realistic. Dawson would of been one of his best wins to date and not just a name like Roy.

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          #34
          Originally posted by DeafCon
          It isn't about fighting Jones or Dawson as he could of fought both. He retired so the point is moot either way but lets be realistic. Dawson would of been one of his best wins to date and not just a name like Roy.
          exactly, i would have given Joe more credit for a guy like Dawson, win or loose, even credit for just having the balls to face him, then for Jones.

          If calzaghe gets so much credit for Roy, then guys like Tarver, and Johnson should get even more love. At least they fought Roy when he was beginning to slide and they beat him up worse than Joe did. Calzaghe fought a walking zombie in Roy.

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            #35
            all I gotta ask bunce is: who else is there to fight if not dawson?

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            • The Gunner
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              #36
              This wasn't directed at Chad Dawson it was directed at the morons who were saying Calzaghe should fight him, morons like Max Kellerman.

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                #37
                Originally posted by egreezy
                The whole point of Calzaghe fighting Dawson was not about selling tickets, it was about finally beating someone who is evenly matched with him to solidify his resume.
                But didnt alot of people think Lacy and Kessler was "evenly matched with him" in fact most picked them to beat Calslappy

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Mrpedigree
                  But didnt alot of people think Lacy and Kessler was "evenly matched with him" in fact most picked them to beat Calslappy
                  The point is Lacy and Kessler are two of the best names on his resume and what have they achieved besides hype? Who are their best wins? I don't want to sound like a Cal hater but when you start throwing around the names of these ATG legends I must intervene.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DeafCon
                    The point is Lacy and Kessler are two of the best names on his resume and what have they achieved besides hype? Who are their best wins? I don't want to sound like a Cal hater but when you start throwing around the names of these ATG legends I must intervene.
                    But if he beat Dawson like he did Kessler and Lacy .....then what would Dawson be or go on to be??
                    Everyone would call dawson the same as Kessler and Lacy

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Mrpedigree
                      But didnt alot of people think Lacy and Kessler was "evenly matched with him" in fact most picked them to beat Calslappy
                      I mean evenly matched in terms of Speed, Power, Footwork, Stamina, Workrate actual boxing capability not acclaim.

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