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  • #91
    Originally posted by syphillis View Post
    In case you haven't noticed this is what boxers do. The weights for both fighters has to be at or below the agreed limit at the weigh-in. Don't act dumb you know this. Thereafter, the majority of the fighters balloon up around 10 lbs, others more and others less. Take Pac for example: in his last 2 fights his fight night weights were both at 148 but 142 and 138 in the weigh in for both DLH and Hatton, respectively. If Pac accepts to fight Cotto at 147 most likely he'll come in at around 148 while Cotto will most likely be around 158. That is because Cotto is naturaly bigger. Do you think this is a fair scenario??? Realize that this is probably Pac's (8th?) weight division from where he started, Cotto's I'm not sure. Do tell me.
    so basically, its ok for pac to have an outright advantage when hes at 130/135, but when he wants to fight welterwieghts, they essentially have to come down to jr welter, throw themselves at a disadvantage even though pac is more than capable of making welterweight?

    you tell me dont act dumb, i understand this is what fighters do, but the **** is the point of saying "ok cotto, come down to 142, even though you will rehydrate to 158, the same weight you would rehydrate to even if this fight was at 147"

    i dont care how many weight division pac has moved up, it kind of removes the signifigance of pac beating welters if every single one has to come down in weight to fight him, hes better off just taking on other guys at 140 who would be more than happy to accomodate him at that weight. Cotto has already shown he is NOT healthy below 147, so why force him to come down for the sake of an advantage? cotto is coming in at 158 no matter what.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
      so basically, its ok for pac to have an outright advantage when hes at 130/135, but when he wants to fight welterwieghts, they essentially have to come down to jr welter, throw themselves at a disadvantage even though pac is more than capable of making welterweight?

      you tell me dont act dumb, i understand this is what fighters do, but the **** is the point of saying "ok cotto, come down to 142, even though you will rehydrate to 158, the same weight you would rehydrate to even if this fight was at 147"

      i dont care how many weight division pac has moved up, it kind of removes the signifigance of pac beating welters if every single one has to come down in weight to fight him, hes better off just taking on other guys at 140 who would be more than happy to accomodate him at that weight. Cotto has already shown he is NOT healthy below 147, so why force him to come down for the sake of an advantage? cotto is coming in at 158 no matter what.
      then don't make the fight. go fight mosley.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
        then don't make the fight. go fight mosley.
        I've mentioned this in another thread that in order for the fight to be made there will need to be a compromise. If not,then move on and fight others, like what Pullcounter said. As a boxing fan I would like to see this fight even though I don't think Pac has any business fighting legitimate WWs when Pac is at his best at 140. You can only put too much density around your bones to gain weight before you start tearing **** up like joints, cartilage, muscle, etc. Thus the catch-weight. Honestly if the fight was to be made I think it would be at 144-145, not 142. The question is, would Cotto be willing to go down to that and would it be a fair fight? It sure as hell will be entertaining to watch.

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        • #94
          People seem to forget hatton never had any defense he's a str8 forward fighter with no foot work that played in to manny's fight plan mayweather,mosely or cotto and even clottey would crush manny at 147 they all can box punch hard and know how to adjust during fights those who know the fight game think about it cotto will rule 147 for a while margocheato had plaster in his wraps and with all that cotto took 11 rounds of punches what does that tell u about his chin wow ahha he's 4 real welterweights be careful what u wish for manny needs to stay at 140 cause i think he will get crushed at welterweight power neautralizes speed period ask shane what cotto fist feel like andlets not forget andre berto he a beast less experienced but very fast and can punch

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          • #95
            If Pac and his team and the World of Boxing Consider him has P4P #1

            If he wants Cotto He should go up to 147 and stop the BS of the Catchweight
            the problem is that the super trainer Roach wants always to have the edge but if they dont go to 147 that means they are scared..

            147 or no fight should be the MOTTO

            If he is the real invincible shiet everybody says Fight a Healthy Cotto and bring your damn brick gloves Because this will be your last fight with your gloves held high

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
              then don't make the fight. go fight mosley.
              I agree, i dont give a **** about this fight. The only good thing about this would be to force mayweather to matchup with mosley while pac and cotto fight.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by clap1972 View Post
                People seem to forget hatton never had any defense he's a str8 forward fighter with no foot work that played in to manny's fight plan mayweather,mosely or cotto and even clottey would crush manny at 147 they all can box punch hard and know how to adjust during fights those who know the fight game think about it cotto will rule 147 for a while margocheato had plaster in his wraps and with all that cotto took 11 rounds of punches what does that tell u about his chin wow ahha he's 4 real welterweights be careful what u wish for manny needs to stay at 140 cause i think he will get crushed at welterweight power neautralizes speed period ask shane what cotto fist feel like andlets not forget andre berto he a beast less experienced but very fast and can punch
                these WWs need to stop trying to make fights with little guys and fight each other.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by SLYPAC View Post
                  If Pac and his team and the World of Boxing Consider him has P4P #1

                  If he wants Cotto He should go up to 147 and stop the BS of the Catchweight
                  the problem is that the super trainer Roach wants always to have the edge but if they dont go to 147 that means they are scared..

                  147 or no fight should be the MOTTO

                  If he is the real invincible shiet everybody says Fight a Healthy Cotto and bring your damn brick gloves Because this will be your last fight with your gloves held high
                  if cotto don't wanna fight at 142 go fight mosley. problem solved.

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                  • #99
                    Too many ****in ******s in here..Look at 147lbs COTTO will be at 160lbs or more come fight night, too much size advantage. If there is a catchweight 144lbs. Cotto at most will be close to 160. De la hoya f%ck up when he tried to rehydrate a little to late, he could have put on as much as 155lbs came fight night. I could go on and break down for the ******s here who don't know **** about anatomy and physiology. Bottomline is if there is no catchweight below 147lbs, too much size advantage for COTTO, then PACQUIAO shouldn't fight him at all. You guys got to remember that PACQUIAO started at 106 and COTTO started probably in the 140s..Even if there is a catchweight of 144lbs, COTTO will definetly not make the same mistake as DE LA HOYA and put on almost 160, but you know what 160lbs is better than 165lbs.

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                    • Originally posted by SLYPAC View Post
                      If Pac and his team and the World of Boxing Consider him has P4P #1

                      If he wants Cotto He should go up to 147 and stop the BS of the Catchweight
                      the problem is that the super trainer Roach wants always to have the edge but if they dont go to 147 that means they are scared..

                      147 or no fight should be the MOTTO

                      If he is the real invincible shiet everybody says Fight a Healthy Cotto and bring your damn brick gloves Because this will be your last fight with your gloves held high
                      Listen man, you don't know anything about anatomy and physiology, the MEDIA AND Bob Arum wanted this fight..MANNY is a warrior and brave but he is not ****** like you. Manny started at 106, Cotto probably around 135-140s. All they are asking is to go to a catchweight so that come fight night COTTO won't be 15lbs heavier..which will be too much size advantage. Even at a catchweight of 144lbs..COTTO come fight night will be in the upper 150s, where Manny will be in the upper 140s. At 147, come fight night COTTO will be at the low 160s and Manny will still be around upper 140s. its because anyone that knows anatomy and physiology the natural bigger can easily put on more weight easier than a smaller guy. With that said, thats why a catch weight is needed. If you still don't understand that, then you just plain ******.

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