Roach and Arum Protecting Pacman, handpicking his fighters.

[sycomantz]

Try not to be so transparent in your posts if you want to come across as objective and fair. Arum is also talking about a possible match with Cotto yeah, that sounds like a cake walk to me. Hatton the guy that has only lost to Mayweather and it took 10rds to get him down....with the help of the ringpost...Pac made him ponder retirement in under 2.

you should try not to be so transparent.

it is easy to see that DLH and Hatton werent the same fighters they once were after fighting floyd.

Look at DLH's fight with Stevie Forbes. better yet, look at DLH's face after the fight.

Hatton would usually KO people by the 4th or 5th round. Malinaggi gave him trouble and hatton didn t have the power to KO Malinaggi. even though hatton won

those 10 rounds Hatton fought against Mayweather was a complete and utter destruction of the Hatton we once saw prior til then. eventhough hatton is just a B class fighter.

so MP beating Hatton who left his chic hanging out showing nothing he learned from MAy SR. gets no credit. doesnt matter if hatton got KO'd in the first 20secs of the fight

just like MP beating a weight drained, AIDS looking DLH who couldnt fire off a punch, block punches with his gloves like he learned to do once training with May SR, the jabs he threw in the begining rounds against PBF before Floyd took them away as wellas his left hook, ability to block punches as well as putting DLH into a crouch from body shots...MP gets no credit for that either

so who is really the transparent one here? looks like you are

[supektibol]

These promoters are wrecking shop with these fighters. Some of the matchups don't make sense..money-wise sure. Pac vs. Cotto though? I think Pac is one of the most exciting boxers out there but he is not superman, I think Cotto's frame is too big and he hurts Pac if he gets to him more than a few times.

After Pac wins over Cotto you'll say Cotto was wieght-drained

[kara]

Truth right here!!!!


/end thread

I agree

[puromexicano198]

Truth right here!!!!


/end thread

Ref,


There's a difference between going for someone you wan to win and won who you know, objectively, will win. based off facts n stats.

Referee, Why? The official END THREADer.

Who gave you the authority to end THREADS.?

[baracuda]

you should try not to be so transparent.

it is easy to see that DLH and Hatton werent the same fighters they once were after fighting floyd.

Look at DLH's fight with Stevie Forbes. better yet, look at DLH's face after the fight.

Hatton would usually KO people by the 4th or 5th round. Malinaggi gave him trouble and hatton didn t have the power to KO Malinaggi. even though hatton won

those 10 rounds Hatton fought against Mayweather was a complete and utter destruction of the Hatton we once saw prior til then. eventhough hatton is just a B class fighter.

so MP beating Hatton who left his chic hanging out showing nothing he learned from MAy SR. gets no credit. doesnt matter if hatton got KO'd in the first 20secs of the fight

just like MP beating a weight drained, AIDS looking DLH who couldnt fire off a punch, block punches with his gloves like he learned to do once training with May SR, the jabs he threw in the begining rounds against PBF before Floyd took them away as wellas his left hook, ability to block punches as well as putting DLH into a crouch from body shots...MP gets no credit for that either

so who is really the transparent one here? looks like you are

but you're the dumbass!...lol

[baracuda]

You talking about the Castillo vs Mayweatehr fight?

manny fought the best and floyd did'nt is all im talking about!

[damian5000]

They're only overrated in hindsite. 90% of the board thought Pac would get waxed against DLH when the fight was first announced. He was also the +200 betting dog at some points.

[ThunderWolf]

Pacman is very good fighter and has every right to be the best P4P fighter. However, recent fights he's been placed on are somewhat overrated and should not be used as a scale to judge him as a fighter. In the last years he's only fought one good, "A", fighter and thats JMM. All the other were either past glory or were never considered "A" level fighters.

Pacman vs. :

Hatton(almost got TKO by Lazcano, unknown fighter), one-sided, whooping.
DLH(dehydrated), one sided.
D.Diaz(poor guy was a moving punching bag for Pacman), one-sided
Morales(last 2 fights, last one was no competition for Pacman)
Barrera(fill in) one-sided

It's evident Pacman trains so hard, that his fights become so easy, But at what point do you stop giving him easy fighters to truly test him and give the fans their money's worth.

Hand-Picking fighters can only go so far. Agree with or not?

Arum is talking about Chavez Jr. vs. Pacman, ARE YOU SERIOUS???!!!!!

Also they dehydrate his opponents, to a weight they haven't fought in years. This is done to great boxers, recently, and the fight has been decided even before the boxers step into the ring.

I can`t see allowing their fighter going for broke against naturally bigger fighters as a sign of protecting their boxer.

It is so hard to go up in weight and retain your punching power and movement, if you are a boxer you would know how hard it is. Against Diaz, dela Hoya and Hatton, there were convincing doubts. It was even felt that Oscar might kill Pac. Man, were they wrong. But you view your opinions after the results, so it is easy to say that. But before these fights it was scary.

[i-box]

Level playing field isnt making someone lose a lot of weigh by coming down to weigh, Losing weigh is one of the most difficult things in boxing if you're a bigger guy because you really dont have enough time to re-hydrate.

If you're a bigger guy having to lose alot of weigh then you really dont have any physical advantages left going into the ring.

Thats why Roach is a very smart guy..

Ok let me get this straight.
most of us agree that the only reason pac obliterated DLH at 147 was because DLH was dehydrated ryt?
so by that logic pac's performance at that weight is still a big question mark,
meaning that we still aren't sure if that extra weight at 147 didn't have an effect on him because DLH just basically stood there and didn't fight.
and we all agree that cotto has trouble making jr WW and so he's basically a true blue WW.
my question is this....
how the hell is it a fair fight at 147 when pac's performance at WW is still questionable and cotto is a true WW?????
yeah sure its harder to lose weight if your a bigger guy.
i get that so that's why it has to be at a catchweight of 144 or 145.
a weight drained cotto is unfair while a bloated pac isn't??????

[baracuda]

You talking about the Castillo vs Mayweatehr fight?

im talking about floyd not fighting margo,cotto or shane...manny fought the best !