Roach and Arum Protecting Pacman, handpicking his fighters.

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  • puromexicano198
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    #91
    Originally posted by We want Floyd
    **** the f**k up with all these "advantages". Maybe PAC should've never fought MAB since he wasn't the favorite, maybe he should've never fought Erika the first time, maybe he should've never fought the toughest, smartest s*n of a b*tch in JMM(not once but twice).

    FYI - PAC was a huge underdog against De La Puto, obviously the experts didn't think PAC had any advantage.

    Name any of those top-flight fighters that PAC fought that started their pro career at 106lbs!!
    No kids allowed to post emotional replies. Manny agree to this post. Well, those who are not obssesed with a fighter. I guess the truth is the truth and it will hurt.

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    • puromexicano198
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      #92
      Originally posted by andrew14
      hand picked??

      your out of your ******* mind man!

      do you mean he should fought lesser than MAB or EM and JMM that time?

      do you mean he should fought other DIAZES or nate than a tank D. DIAZ?

      after ODLH done in boxing he's now a zombie fighting pac.

      after hatton fought kostya and other and he's hand picked guy too.

      next to be hand pick is cotto, pbf, mosley etc.

      do you mean he should be fighting heavyweights moron.

      No.No.No.4th question?????.
      We'll see against Cotto, remember he has a different trainer, Clottey's fight will be a good indicator. Why? the Trainer you idiot.
      No. He should fight whoever they want him to. But give him credit where credit is due, if its worthy. Don't make a big deal out of it, beating a dehydrated DLH, or Diaz or Hatton. C'mon. Dont be so childish. Then again maybe you are a child. Your replies speaks volume of your maturity and education.

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      • Johnny Rebel
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        #93
        Any fighter who has the ability to fight and beat the best in multiple weight classes will have the luxury of being able to handpick their opponents because they won't have any mandatories to deal with like they would staying at 1 weight division. Pac chose to fight DLH and Hatton because they were the 2 biggest paydays for him and Hatton was still the man to beat at 140 no matter how many excuses you make. If Pac fights Floyd (who also handpicks his opponents) it will also be because of the payday plus Floyd is still the man to beat at 147 and also for the P4P title.

        Why should Pac or Floyd fight for smaller purses against unknown fighters? Because some people on a message board think so and so would be a tougher fight? Every fighter has flaws and every fighters record can be discredited by haters and trolls, it's getting old though...

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        • puromexicano198
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          #94
          Originally posted by Johnny Rebel
          Any fighter who has the ability to fight and beat the best in multiple weight classes will have the luxury of being able to handpick their opponents because they won't have any mandatories to deal with like they would staying at 1 weight division. Pac chose to fight DLH and Hatton because they were the 2 biggest paydays for him and Hatton was still the man to beat at 140 no matter how many excuses you make. If Pac fights Floyd (who also handpicks his opponents) it will also be because of the payday plus Floyd is still the man to beat at 147 and also for the P4P title.

          Why should Pac or Floyd fight for smaller purses against unknown fighters? Because some people on a message board think so and so would be a tougher fight? Every fighter has flaws and every fighters record can be discredited by haters and trolls, it's getting old though...
          Good point in reference to making fights based of bloggers instead of what will make the most money.

          I agree it's about the MONEY.

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          • Ray*
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            #95
            Originally posted by Obusv477
            Those guys at ww are the ones calling Pac out. U talk about fighting them at a level playing field...thats what havn those guys droppin in weight is for, to even the playn field. U seem to forget its those guys that have physical advantages on Pac not the other way around.

            Level playing field isnt making someone lose a lot of weigh by coming down to weigh, Losing weigh is one of the most difficult things in boxing if you're a bigger guy because you really dont have enough time to re-hydrate.

            If you're a bigger guy having to lose alot of weigh then you really dont have any physical advantages left going into the ring.

            Thats why Roach is a very smart guy..

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            • puromexicano198
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              #96
              Originally posted by raycorey

              Level playing field isnt making someone lose a lot of weigh by coming down to weigh, Losing weigh is one of the most difficult things in boxing if you're a bigger guy because you really dont have enough time to re-hydrate.

              If you're a bigger guy having to lose alot of weigh then you really dont have any physical advantages left going into the ring.

              Thats why Roach is a very smart guy..
              This is where the thread seems to be going for the most part.

              Roach looking out for his boxer. Making others drop weight to their disadvantage.

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              • Piggu
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                #97
                Juan Lazcano is FAR fromm an unknown name to anyone who actually closely follows boxing. Yeah, he's not an amazing fighter, but he wasn't some Carlos Baldomir type guy.

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                • AntonTheMeh
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                  #98
                  the fanboy bitchassness has poisoned this forum beyond belief.

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                  • Johnny Rebel
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Piggu
                    Juan Lazcano is FAR fromm an unknown name to anyone who actually closely follows boxing. Yeah, he's not an amazing fighter, but he wasn't some Carlos Baldomir type guy.
                    And Hatton was far from being stopped in that fight. Sure Ricky got buzzed for a split second but he dominated that fight pitching a near shutout on the cards. I don't get the posters who think Ricky was in trouble, if that were the case the 10 seconds it took to tie his shoes wouldn't have saved him since there was still 2 and a half rounds left and Juan would've stopped him if Ricky were really ready to go. Hatton's style is one where he gets hit in every fight, that doesn't mean he's "almost KO" in every fight.

                    Floyd and Pac were able to KO Ricky because not only are they special fighters, they were able to land hooks with blazing speed and accuracy that Ricky never saw coming so he couldn't brace or roll with the punches.

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by raycorey

                      Level playing field isnt making someone lose a lot of weigh by coming down to weigh, Losing weigh is one of the most difficult things in boxing if you're a bigger guy because you really dont have enough time to re-hydrate.

                      If you're a bigger guy having to lose alot of weigh then you really dont have any physical advantages left going into the ring.

                      Thats why Roach is a very smart guy..
                      exactly so the playing field is level right? because pac is the smaller guy after all.


                      Originally posted by puromexicano198
                      This is where the thread seems to be going for the most part.

                      Roach looking out for his boxer. Making others drop weight to their disadvantage.
                      if they don't like it then they don't have to fight pac right?

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