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  • puromexicano198
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    #101
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    exactly so the playing field is level right? because pac is the smaller guy after all.




    if they don't like it then they don't have to fight pac right?
    It will even it out. But it will not bring him the same glory.

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    • Obusv477
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      #102
      Originally posted by raycorey

      Level playing field isnt making someone lose a lot of weigh by coming down to weigh, Losing weigh is one of the most difficult things in boxing if you're a bigger guy because you really dont have enough time to re-hydrate.

      If you're a bigger guy having to lose alot of weigh then you really dont have any physical advantages left going into the ring.

      Thats why Roach is a very smart guy..
      And on the flipside, fighting guys who weighs in 160 on fight night isn't very level either for someone who comes in at 148. So the question here then is who is callin out who? I think we can all agree that it is Pac who is in the driver's seat here, so if Cotto is willing to cut down to 143, it can only mean he is confident enough to be able to do so.

      Again it is the ww's who are callin Pac out. Why should Pac fight those guys at their advantage?? They need him more than he does.

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      • Ray*
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        #103
        Originally posted by Obusv477
        And on the flipside, fighting guys who weighs in 160 on fight night isn't very level either for someone who comes in at 148. So the question here then is who is callin out who? I think we can all agree that it is Pac who is in the driver's seat here, so if Cotto is willing to cut down to 143, it can only mean he is confident enough to be able to do so.

        Again it is the ww's who are callin Pac out. Why should Pac fight those guys at their advantage?? They need him more than he does.

        I have never argue about the flipside just when people are making it look like Pacquaio was fighting through adversity, He wasnt he had the advantage going into the oscar fight but people on the outside didnt see it, All we saw was oscar is the bigger man.

        The same would be the case if Cotto signs to fight Pac anywhere under 147 because he would have to re-hydrate in little to no time, But like you said its the WW(Cotto/Mosley) who are calling him out and i dont expect pacman to go up to 147 or fight those guys at there advantage, Pacman hold all the cards and i expect them to be stack in his favour.

        Thats why i laugh when people expect Mayweather to come to 135-140 after 18 months off against JMM who doesnt hold much cards.

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        • puromexicano198
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          #104
          Originally posted by Obusv477
          And on the flipside, fighting guys who weighs in 160 on fight night isn't very level either for someone who comes in at 148. So the question here then is who is callin out who? I think we can all agree that it is Pac who is in the driver's seat here, so if Cotto is willing to cut down to 143, it can only mean he is confident enough to be able to do so.

          Again it is the ww's who are callin Pac out. Why should Pac fight those guys at their advantage?? They need him more than he does.
          If Pacman is on the driver side, then should he still be recognized. for example: beating a dehydrated DLH? As if DLH was performing like he was against MAyweather. 2 very different DLH.

          Thats part or maybe all of my point: DLH was in a certain condition against Mayweather. The same DLH was in a totally different condition against Pacman. Everyone saw it and everyone knew it.

          Even though Pacman is good. I feel he shouldn't get the same credit Mayweather got for beating DLH. It doesn't make sense. Even if he beat him in less rounds.

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          • noypi2
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            #105
            Originally posted by puromexicano198
            Pacman is very good fighter and has every right to be the best P4P fighter. However, recent fights he's been placed on are somewhat overrated and should not be used as a scale to judge him as a fighter. In the last years he's only fought one good, "A", fighter and thats JMM. All the other were either past glory or were never considered "A" level fighters.

            Pacman vs. :

            Hatton(almost got TKO by Lazcano, unknown fighter), one-sided, whooping.
            DLH(dehydrated), one sided.
            D.Diaz(poor guy was a moving punching bag for Pacman), one-sided
            Morales(last 2 fights, last one was no competition for Pacman)
            Barrera(fill in) one-sided

            It's evident Pacman trains so hard, that his fights become so easy, But at what point do you stop giving him easy fighters to truly test him and give the fans their money's worth.

            Hand-Picking fighters can only go so far. Agree with or not?

            Arum is talking about Chavez Jr. vs. Pacman, ARE YOU SERIOUS???!!!!!

            Before each of those fights people say Pac will get demolish and will get KO. After each of the fights, those same people will came up with excuses and upto now some ******s are not done with their excuses...

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            • puromexicano198
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              #106
              Originally posted by noypi2
              Before each of those fights people say Pac will get demolish and will get KO. After each of the fights, those same people will came up with excuses and upto now some ******s are not done with their excuses...
              Which ones??? be specific. You are WRONG, uninformed. Then again to his countrymen they probably portray him to always be the underdog. and then SURPRISE.

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              • puromexicano198
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                #107
                Now PAcman is being advised to fight Cotto, next?

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                  #108
                  hopkins vs pac at 160

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by puromexicano198
                    It will even it out. But it will not bring him the same glory.
                    true, but it gives cotto/mosley an excuse for losing too

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                    • nnamme
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by puromexicano198
                      Saying it is one thing, we'll see though. I never blamed Pacman, like he said, he boxes and his promoters pick the fighters. Personally I think he does a great job training before the match, that's why he performs so well during one.

                      It's just the quality of fighters he's put up against, who happen to have belts.
                      Huh?? and belts are for what?? for public showing??

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