Pac VS JMM 2, Your honest unbiased opinion who do you think really won.

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  • xcaret
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    #291
    look, im a huge pacquiao fan but he lost both fights

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    • BmoreBrawler
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      #292
      Originally posted by xcaret
      look, im a huge pacquiao fan but he lost both fights
      ahahahhahahahahahahah hahahahahaahah

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      • loui_ludwig
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        #293
        Junior lightweight
        Manny Pacquiao W12 Juan Manuel Marquez
        Wins world junior lightweight title
        Scores: 115-112, 114-113 Pacquiao, 115-112 Marquez
        Records: Pacquiao, 46-3-2, 34 KOs; Marquez, 48-4-1, 35 KOs

        Rafael's remark: After the tremendous action fight they waged in their disputed 2004 draw, nobody should be at all surprised that when Pacquiao and Marquez finally met in a rematch, they produced another enthralling, bloody and dramatic fight for the ages. We'll certainly be talking about it at the end of the year when it comes time to pick the fight of the year.

        It could have gone either way -- they are so perfectly matched that virtually every round was close other than the third round, in which Pacquiao nailed Marquez with a left hand and knocked him down. The 12th round was also a big Marquez round.

        The disturbing thing was to hear the crybaby Marquez camp whining and complaining endlessly about the decision as though it was scandalous. They should be absolutely ashamed of themselves. It's one thing to proclaim victory and express disappointment in a close decision loss. It's another to imply that some kind of shadowy element had it in for you and that the judging was somehow not on the up and up. The Marquez camp was almost as bad a few weeks ago when Rafael Marquez, Juan's brother, lost a tough decision in his rubber match with Israel Vazquez.

        There are fights in which certain scores are mind-blowing and you really have to question the competency of the judges. This was not one of them. It was merely a razor-close fight that was awesome to watch because it had many close rounds. Marquez really has only himself to blame for the defeat. If he didn't get knocked down, the fight would have been a draw and he would have kept his title. Sure, many ringside media had it for Marquez, but only by a point or two, and even those who had him winning didn't complain about the official decision.

        Marquez would like an immediate third fight, and it's hard to blame him. Pacquiao isn't interested in that, however, and promoter Bob Arum made their position clear: Take a break from each other, let them fight interim bouts so that a third fight will be even bigger and worth even more money. It makes sense and it is hard to argue Arum's logic.

        Pacquiao, if his cut heals properly, is going to move up to 135 pounds and challenge titleholder David Diaz (who won on the undercard) on June 28, also at Mandalay Bay. Don't be surprised to see that get delayed, however. After that, Marquez looms as a great fight for him in the fall, and Marquez said he was willing to go to 135 to make it happen. So enough with the sour g****s. Marquez and his handlers, especially the particularly annoying co-promoter Jaime Quintana, need to realize that Marquez's reputation has not been damaged. It has been enhanced by another sensational fight that the sold-out crowd of 11,061 loved.

        In a bloody and dramatic fight for the ages, Manny Pacquiao's battle with Juan Manuel Marquez had a little bit of everything -- except controversy.

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        • Ray*
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          #294
          I have never seen this fight apart from the KD gifs but am DL it now and would score it later with any biase, am not mexican and neither am i a filipino so i would do so without any biase whatsoever.

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            #295
            Originally posted by xcaret
            look, im a huge pacquiao fan but he lost both fights
            lmao...End this thread now.

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            • Maestro USA
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              #296
              Marquez won.

              Looks like the majority agrees!

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                #297
                Originally posted by xcaret
                look, im a huge pacquiao fan but he lost both fights
                dont let the annoying hatred comments of xcaret fool you. he has a heart of gold.

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                • loui_ludwig
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                  #298
                  Pacaquiao 114 Marquez 113.

                  PREFIGHT: The atmospher is electric as fans of both fighters are cheering loudly. Unofficial weights tonight: Marquez 141 lbs. and

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #299
                    pac beat jmm 2x

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                    • loui_ludwig
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                      #300
                      Two of the judges’ on Saturday, Las Vegans Duane Ford and Jerry Roth, have been among the world’s elite officials for more than two decades. Roth, in my opinion, has been and remains the world’s top judge, while Ford is not far behind them.

                      Ford had the bout 115-112 for Pacquiao. Roth had it 115-112 for Marquez. Though I had Marquez winning by the same score as Roth, this was such a close bout that it was easy to understand how it could have been scored the other

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