Pac VS JMM 2, Your honest unbiased opinion who do you think really won.

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  • Xplosivo
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    #271
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    pac beat jmm 2x
    stop kidding yourself

    jmm beat pac twice

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    • Xplosivo
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      #272
      Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao:

      - Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
      - Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
      - Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
      - Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
      - Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
      - Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
      - Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
      - Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
      - Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
      - Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
      - Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
      - Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
      - Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
      - DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
      - Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
      - Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
      - Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
      - Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
      - Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
      - Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
      - Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
      - William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
      - Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
      - Bert Sugar:Marquez
      - Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
      - Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
      - Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
      - Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez


      Pacquiao wins the vacant Ring Magazine jr. lightweight world title. Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquiao but did not believe he won the fight.


      as you can see ronnie who constantly nuthugs pacquiao also had marquez winning
      Last edited by Xplosivo; 05-10-2009, 01:36 AM.

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      • mmaphilippines
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        #273
        Pacquaio because of the knockdown

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        • Xplosivo
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          #274
          apart from the round by round marquez edged in every punch stat 2

          Total Punches........... Marquez............. Pacquiao
          Landed.....................172................... 157
          Thrown ....................511 ...................619
          Percentage...............34% ..................25%



          Jabs...............Marquez..............Pacquiao
          Landed............42.......................43
          Thrown...........201..................... 314
          Percentage......21%....................14%

          Power Punches.......... Marquez............Pacquiao
          Landed....................130..................114
          Thrown.....................310..................30 5
          Percentage................42%.................37%

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          • Pullcounter
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            #275
            Originally posted by Xplosivo
            stop kidding yourself

            jmm beat pac twice
            you're right jmm lost 2x pac.

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            • Xplosivo
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              #276
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              you're right jmm lost 2x pac.
              majority think jmm beat pacquiao

              pacquiao got lucky twice, even u knw that deep down inside ur mind, if u disagree then i guess it wud be safe to call u a nuthugger. not even filipinos thought pacquiao won that second fight

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              • NoFear24
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                #277
                Originally posted by Xplosivo
                majority think jmm beat pacquiao

                pacquiao got lucky twice, even u knw that deep down inside ur mind, if u disagree then i guess it wud be safe to call u a nuthugger. not even filipinos thought pacquiao won that fight
                I'm filipino and I think he won the fight. Let me ask you, what rounds did you give JMM. Don't go by what other people say and watch the whole fight and tell me what rounds you gave to JMM without being Bias. If you want the fight, just let me know and I'll upload it for you. Don't watch it on Youtube either, you can't see the fight in its full glory.

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                • Maestro USA
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                  #278
                  Originally posted by Xplosivo
                  Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao:

                  - Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
                  - Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
                  - Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
                  - Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
                  - Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
                  - Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
                  - Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
                  - Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
                  - Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
                  - Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
                  - Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
                  - Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
                  - Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
                  - DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
                  - Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
                  - Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
                  - Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
                  - Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
                  - Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
                  - Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
                  - Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
                  - William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
                  - Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
                  - Bert Sugar:Marquez
                  - Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
                  - Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
                  - Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
                  - Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez


                  Pacquiao wins the vacant Ring Magazine jr. lightweight world title. Ring Magazine awarded the belt to Pacquiao but did not believe he won the fight.


                  as you can see ronnie who constantly nuthugs pacquiao also had marquez winning

                  The experts thought Marquez won and so do the posters at BoxingScene.

                  As Bernard Hopkins said, "The people are the true judges".

                  The people have spoken. Marquez beat Pacquiao!

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                  • Xplosivo
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                    #279
                    Originally posted by NoFear24
                    I'm filipino and I think he won the fight. Let me ask you, what rounds did you give JMM. Don't go by what other people say and watch the whole fight and tell me what rounds you gave to JMM without being Bias. If you want the fight, just let me know and I'll upload it for you. Don't watch it on Youtube either, you can't see the fight in its full glory.
                    i watched it abt 8 different times, and couldnt score it for pacquiao once. its simple pacquiao not only lost in the stats, but in the round by round of the fight, nonito donaire, ronnie nuthuganiels, philipino inquirer all these had marquez winning over pacquiao, pacquiao knew he lost just look at his expression after the last round.

                    even ring magazine, espn, fight news, boxingscene, hbo, YOU NAME IT BUDDY, all had marquez winning.

                    majority consider that fight controversial and jmm was the right winner of it.

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                    • shogunn
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                      #280
                      Look at the scoreboard kids, Pacquaio won. Any official almanac, record rankings will tell you. Armchair boxing expert's opinion doesnt count.

                      JMMs claim to fame is a draw and a loss to Pacquaio, hahaha. Without it he'd be off the P4P list. Manny has no problem doing on his own thing while these babies cry about a close fight.

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