Pac VS JMM 2, Your honest unbiased opinion who do you think really won.

[loui_ludwig]

The action was dead close, let's leave it at that

Don't know if i can post the site.

[NoFear24]

I have never seen this fight apart from the KD gifs but am DL it now and would score it later with any biase, am not mexican and neither am i a filipino so i would do so without any biase whatsoever.

Always appreciate an unbiased opinion.

[loui_ludwig]

Juan Manuel, though a gifted counterpuncher and technical boxer, spent too much time counterpunching and technically boxing! At some point during the fight, Juan should have taken the lead, forced the action, and put Pacquiao on the defensive. In fact, it is when he pressed the action that he performed best. Marquez proved that he could break Pacquiao’s defense when he was aggressive; but perhaps by habit, he resorted to his comfort zone of counterpunching and defending. This decision allowed Pacquiao to be the clear aggressor and overall ring general. There are points to be awarded to fighters viewed as initiating contact, or as it’s called, “making the fight.”

Many observers, however, view the knockdowns as the chief determining factor in both fights. While technically true considering the one point split-decisions, the aggressive energy, and lack thereof, clearly favored the victors.

There were a few rounds that were so close they could have gone either way but the early knock down in round three gave Pacquiao the edge over the twelve rounds in the judge’s eyes

From ESB again.

[loui_ludwig]

Pac 115 Marquez 114

They didn't add the total but this is what i got.

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Round031508.htm

[Ray*]

Always appreciate an unbiased opinion.

No problem mate, its on 80% right now so thanks for the link to the fight, its 5.40am over here now, the DL should be finish by 6am, Would watch it at work then i would post my scorecard on here for you.

[xcaret]

Pac 115 Marquez 114

They didn't add the total but this is what i got.

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Round031508.htm

do you know your posting this **** thats coming from just one guy and not the whole ***in site? for example, if fight-news had pacquiao winning it doesnt mean the whole ***in fight-news crew had them winning, shut the *** up with these websites because even filipinos thought pacquiao lost, and thats a ***in shame.

[loui_ludwig]

do you know your posting this **** thats coming from just one guy and not the whole ***in site? for example, if fight-news had pacquiao winning it doesnt mean the whole ***in fight-news crew had them winning, shut the *** up with these websites because even filipinos thought pacquiao lost, and thats a ***in shame.

And the media said it was a closed fight and not a robbery like you been crying out loud about the fight.

[Ray*]

Okay finished watching the fight and here is my scorecard....



(1)jmm-10-9 just about egde this round
(2)jmm-10-9 definitely his round
(3)paq- 10-8 i wanted to score this round 9-9
(4)Paq- 10-9 difficult round to score both were firing at each other
(5)JMM- 10-9 egde it.
(6)JMM-10-9 clear cut
(7)JMM-10-9 won that one.
(8)JMM-10-9 wow big round for him,Paq seem bothered by is cut.
(9)Paq-10-9 he was very assertive in this round.
(10)Paq-10-9 great left that shook jmm.
(11)JMM-10-9 takes it slightly
(12)JMM-10-9


my scorecard reads JMM-115....Paq-113....

[Jim Jeffries]

Okay finished watching the fight and here is my scorecard....



(1)jmm-10-9 just about edge this round
(2)jmm-10-9 definitely his round
(3)paq- 10-8 i wanted to score this round 9-9
(4)Paq- 10-9 difficult round to score both were firing at each other
(5)JMM- 10-9 edge it.
(6)JMM-10-9 clear cut
(7)JMM-10-9 won that one.
(8)JMM-10-9 wow big round for him,Paq seem bothered by is cut.
(9)Paq-10-9 he was very assertive in this round.
(10)Paq-10-9 great left that shook jmm.
(11)JMM-10-9 takes it slightly
(12)JMM-10-9


my scorecard reads JMM-115....Paq-113....

So you had 4 extremely close rounds and gave 3 of them to Marquez?

[Pugilistic™]

This thread has never been down before.

Anyway i felt Marquez won the second fight 115-112.