Pac VS JMM 2, Your honest unbiased opinion who do you think really won.

[KJB]

On the night of the fight, I had Pac winning by 1 point.
I was kicking it with a bunch of Mexicans on this particular night, all rooting for Marquez, and we all agreed the knockdown won it for Pac.

[the-Q]

I rewatched the fight again for the 10th time. Everytime I score the fight, I have JMM winning everytime.

Round 1: JMM 10-9
Round 2: JMM 10-9
Round 3: Pac 10-8
Round 4: Pac 10-9
Round 5: JMM 10-9
Round 6: JMM 10-9
Round 7: Pac 10-9
Round 8: JMM 10-9
Round 9: JMM 10-9
Round 10: Pac 10-9
Round 11: JMM 10-9
Round 12: JMM 10-9

115-112 For JMM. Last time I scored the fight I had it 114-113 for JMM. Yes it was a close fight but JMM clearly won the fight.

[KillerGloves]

JMM #1 P4P Fighter!!!

i watched it abt 8 different times, and couldnt score it for pacquiao once. its simple pacquiao not only lost in the stats, but in the round by round of the fight, nonito donaire, ronnie nuthuganiels, philipino inquirer all these had marquez winning over pacquiao, pacquiao knew he lost just look at his expression after the last round.

even ring magazine, espn, fight news, boxingscene, hbo, YOU NAME IT BUDDY, all had marquez winning.

majority consider that fight controversial and jmm was the right winner of it.

Amen Brother!!

[NoFear24]

i watched it abt 8 different times, and couldnt score it for pacquiao once. its simple pacquiao not only lost in the stats, but in the round by round of the fight, nonito donaire, ronnie nuthuganiels, philipino inquirer all these had marquez winning over pacquiao, pacquiao knew he lost just look at his expression after the last round.

even ring magazine, espn, fight news, boxingscene, hbo, YOU NAME IT BUDDY, all had marquez winning.

majority consider that fight controversial and jmm was the right winner of it.

Once again, I ask which round did you give Marquez. You watch the fight 8 ifferent times and you obviously still can't name which rounds you can give Marquez. It seems to me you don't know and your basing all your information on what other people are telling you. I see that same thing over and over of those press row judging. You've obviously never took the time to actually judge the fight accordingly without being biased. Its pretty obvious because all you do is post those press row judging stats.

Also you post the total punch stat numbers, but guess what BUDDY, those numbers don't tell the whole story. Marquez did land the most total punches, but in boxing its who ever landed the most punches in that particular round that wins that round. Marquez had 1 huge round that he did out score Pac Man in and you probably can't tell me which round it is unless you go watch it right now. All I ask is which rounds did you give Marquez so I can go back and see how a you judge fights and why you would give Marquez that round. Again simple question which rounds did you give Marquez. If you need the fight and clear quality and HBO here it is.
http://www.**********.com/?d=D4PQ0ZJK when your done watching it, go ahead and tell me which rounds you gave Marquez because it doesn't seem you have watch the entire fight at all and only have stats and press row judging of the fight from various sites. If you scored it for Marquez fine, but at least let me see which rounds you gave to Marquez so I can check on why some people would give Marquez that certain rounds. And don't be looking at other peoples scored cards, and giving me their score cards, watch it first then come back here. If its the exact same, its fine as long as you watched it yourself without being biased. That was the whole point of this thread to judge the fight without being biased. I can tell which posters are biased, unbiased, or just plain don't care as long as it makes their fighter look good cough..cough. M..st U.s.a cough.

[TintaBoricua]

I've watched that fight a few times in the last week and scored the majority of the rounds for Marquez. I know there were a couple of parts where I completely disagreed with the judges, though. I have the re-airing of the fight a week after the original. It was when they aired it on the day that Casamayor-Katsidis fought. The score is shown every time a round is over, and I know that in a couple of rounds (if I'm not mistaken), two judges would give it to Pac and I'd agree with the one giving it to Marquez). The fight was very competitive. Such a shame that Marquez lost because of the knockdown, though.

I'll bump this thread after I watch it again soon.

[thebowtod]

i mean seriously, you could of had it either way... you cant say pacman or marquez clearly won the fight, cuz neither did, but i had pacman winning by 1

[optkliluzn]

i just could NEVER give a fight to the guy who got knocked down 3 times in one round, in my opinion Marquez would have had to talest knock Pac down Twice to make it ok. I mean Marquez won most of the rounds but he got his ass kicked but looked good in the motions

I watched the fight like 6 + times and had Pac Man winning every single time.
I just don't see how Marquez won that. Just want to see how many people think Pac won or Marquez without being biased. If that's even possible. Don't post much so just want to see whats you guys opinions on this great fight between the 2.

Without being biased, and don't give me that well all these guys in the press row scored it for Marquez. I want your honest opinion on who you guys thought won. Only for people who watched the entire fight and not influence by biased decision. This is how I scored it

Round 1 Pac 10-9
Round 2 Marquez 10-9
Round 3 Pac 10-8 ( could have been 10-7 when Marquez held himself up before the round ended )
Round 4 Pac 10-9
Round 5 Marquez 10-9
Round 6 Marquez 10-9
Round 7 Pac 10-9
Round 8 Marquez 10-9
Round 9 Pac 10-9 very close ( but pac landed a good left hand that opened a bigger cut on Marquez left eye. Landed almost the same amount with pac landing a 1 more punch but doing more damage)
Round 10 Pac 10-9
Round 11 JMM 10-9 Very close round. Pac did the most damaging punches with his left hand. Could have gone either way.
Round 12 Jmm 10-9

6 round to 6 with the knockdown being the difference.

I got Pac winning by 1 point do to the knockdown.

On another note, I really wished that Floyd would have fought someone like Berto or Collazo as a tune up so Pac and JMM could finish there unfinished business at 140.

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[street bully]

I rewatched the fight again for the 10th time. Everytime I score the fight, I have JMM winning everytime.

Round 1: JMM 10-9
Round 2: JMM 10-9
Round 3: Pac 10-8
Round 4: Pac 10-9
Round 5: JMM 10-9
Round 6: JMM 10-9
Round 7: Pac 10-9
Round 8: JMM 10-9
Round 9: JMM 10-9
Round 10: Pac 10-9
Round 11: JMM 10-9
Round 12: JMM 10-9

115-112 For JMM. Last time I scored the fight I had it 114-113 for JMM. Yes it was a close fight but JMM clearly won the fight.

I had the exact same scorecard as you. 8 rounds to four in Marquez's favor.

[AFTER HOURS]

you should have a good sounds system and good quality television to score a boxing fight by watching it on TV.

[loui_ludwig]

I rewatched the fight again for the 10th time. Everytime I score the fight, I have JMM winning everytime.

Round 1: JMM 10-9
Round 2: JMM 10-9
Round 3: Pac 10-8
Round 4: Pac 10-9
Round 5: JMM 10-9
Round 6: JMM 10-9
Round 7: Pac 10-9
Round 8: JMM 10-9
Round 9: JMM 10-9
Round 10: Pac 10-9
Round 11: JMM 10-9
Round 12: JMM 10-9

115-112 For JMM. Last time I scored the fight I had it 114-113 for JMM. Yes it was a close fight but JMM clearly won the fight.

Nope he didn't.