Manny Pacquiao is not top 10-30 all time...

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Not everyone in the HOF is an all-time great.

He still has nice wins on his resume and we were really talking about Foreman's resume.

[Weebler I]

Give me prime Oscar and it spells trouble for Pac. He could win but no way in hell would it be one sided...the Oscar that fought Mayweather was past prime as well. Which is why I don't consider it one of Floyd's best wins...

Pac beats a prime Oscar. You don't realise how big the gap between them was in that fight, Oscar was absolutely nowhere so even in his prime he wasn't so much better that he'd get close to winning.

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Its not so much as he started as a flyweight as much as he WON A WORLD TITLE at that weight class. We're not talking about simply turning pro here. Yes his body was maturing but he had lineal championship at that weight, That's what makes lineal at 140 incredible.

World titles don't mean anything if the opponent isn't any good. The main criteria(for me at least) is opponents. In that area he doesn't surpass these other guys...

[FasTHarD]

Ken Norton is a 1989 inductee of the World Boxing Hall of Fame...and he's also in the IBHOF

Man you don't know what you're talking about. HOFers are different from ATG's.
I think you're just flooding. Typical Floyd fanboys.

[Alibata]

World titles don't mean anything if the opponent isn't any good. The main criteria(for me at least) is opponents. In that area he doesn't surpass these other guys...

The man that beat the man that beat the man had to be good. That is why so much more weight is put on the ring belt rather than the alphabets. Were not talking about world titles were talking about lineal titles.

[IMDAZED]

He still has nice wins on his resume and we were really talking about Foreman's resume.

The nice wins are what got him into the HOF. He's not an ATG.

You can argue all you want but you seem to be having difficulty finding reasons why Manny wouldn't be if he beat Floyd.

[Thoth]

This is like saying a book is great/awful when you're only a little more than half way through it. Let the man finish his work and then make your pronouncements.

As is, I'm just glad to be watching Pacquiao fight. It's really been a privilege to see such a great boxer in my lifetime. Enjoy it while it lasts cause we all know it won't last long.

[MakeDamnSure]

pac could easily be ahead of many of those guys, and you want to know why. HE IS/WAS the Lineal CHAMPION at 4 Weight Classes. That means he beat the BEst Champion at 4 Weight Classes. Nobody else in history has done that.

For some, it's really hard to understand..

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The nice wins are what got him into the HOF. He's not an ATG.

You can argue all you want but you seem to be having difficulty finding reasons why Manny wouldn't be if he beat Floyd.

Foreman, Evander,Frazier...

[Main Event]

Foreman, Evander,Frazier...

Foreman lost a UD to Real Deal