Manny Pacquiao is not top 10-30 all time...

[UncleSam]

fuc.k why would pac beat mosley, cotto and mayweather.. you are all idiots.. they are 147 and 154 fighters..

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Gayhugger thread again

What an intelligent post...funny how we weren't talking about Floyd...

[Alibata]

When Pac beats Shane, Cotto, and Mayweather we can talk about top 10-15...

Or maybe after he does, he will need to beat a new crop of names because Shane is too old, Cotto is damaged goods, and Mayweather is faded. The game is not hard to play.

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Only Shane is old. Cotto's in his prime and I think Floyd is too...

[Mr. Ryan]

The man is a great fighter and has the opportunity to be the greatest of his decade but that doesn't place him that high on the all time list. For samples I looked at ESPN's list.

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
18. Archie Moore
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern

I know some don't like this list but who on here that is notable to you outside of maybe Chavez(and he even has a billion wins) would you put Pacquiao ahead of?

And please, this thread has nothing to do with Mayweather cuz he aint in the top 30 either.

I whole-heartedly disagree with the majority of this list anyways, but even still I disagree with ranking active fighters on lists like these.

George Foreman is way too high, as is Marcel Cerdan, Stanley Ketchel, Jake Lamotta and Joe Frazier. The list seems to show a strong bias towards pop culture impact and overall sentimentality. I'm just surprised I didn't see Ray Mancini in here.

Alexis Arguello, Pernell Whitaker and Roy Jones could all be included in those fighters places.

[Vasyl’s dad]

He may not be 10-30,

but hes easily closer to it than Mayweather ever will be.

[shadeyfizzle]

When Pac beats Shane, Cotto, and Mayweather we can talk about top 10-15...

You know he doesnt have to beat both Mosley and Cotto right?? If Pac faces Mayweather 1st....then Shane and Cotto will fight a unification bout in the meantime...and whether you like it or not...Pac would face the winner of Cotto-Mosley2 for the undisputed and lineal welterweight championship. Floyd in the meantime would retire again if he beats Pacquiao before going anywhere near Cotto or Mosley.

[Main Event]

Or maybe after he does, he will need to beat a new crop of names because Shane is too old, Cotto is damaged goods, and Mayweather is faded. The game is not hard to play.

People say the exact same thing when people talk about Floyd opponents....If he beats Shane then he's ducking Cotto if he beats Cotto then hes ducking PWILL if he beats him hes ducking Margo

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I whole-heartedly disagree with the majority of this list anyways, but even still I disagree with ranking active fighters on lists like these.

George Foreman is way too high, as is Marcel Cerdan, Stanley Ketchel, Jake Lamotta and Joe Frazier. The list seems to show a strong bias towards pop culture impact and overall sentimentality. I'm just surprised I didn't see Ray Mancini in here.

Alexis Arguello, Pernell Whitaker and Roy Jones could all be included in those fighters places.

I don't think Whitaker has a great resume...people have picked Roy's apart before...

[UncleSam]

Pacquiao GETS Four (and Six): Real History in Our Time

so this means nothing.. he is not even in the top 30??????????? fuc.k