You really CANNOT BLAME Mayweather sr. for THE LOSS!!!!

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  • KnockMeOut
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    #31
    Originally posted by iDarren
    I agree. This is the big fail. A good coach just doesn't teach technique as many seem to think, but he also transforms the mind of his student. As you said - makes it "instinct" Floyd Sr failed to do this.

    Perhaps Roach could have done it....
    Thank you. Id rep you but I ran out. Will do later.

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    • Bhopreign
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      #32
      Originally posted by iDarren
      I agree. This is the big fail. A good coach just doesn't teach technique as many seem to think, but he also transforms the mind of his student. As you said - makes it "instinct" Floyd Sr failed to do this.

      Perhaps Roach could have done it....
      That makes no sense.

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        #33
        Originally posted by F l i c k e r
        All the blame cant go on Sr. but its equally his fault for teaching an old dog... new VERY complicated tricks.
        Youre taught to keep your hands up the first week of being in the gym, heck even the ref tells you before the fight to protect yourself at all times, how complicated is that? Some people never cease to amaze me on boxing forums.

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          #34
          Originally posted by KnockMeOut
          How do you even know Floyd sr's plan woulda worked? Manny dominated the whole fight. You mean to say that in 2 rounds we never even saw a glimpse of the so called game plan? Why did Hatton keep Floyd sr in his camp, just to crack jokes at each other? Hatton must have did at least one thing Floyd taught him to do. Why waste money in hiring Floyd if Ricky didnt get anything out of him.
          Frank Warren is a genius.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Ido
            Floyd Sr. was giving him good advice. Don’t Jump on him, move your head, and keep your guard up. Hatton didn’t listen, and fought his fight.
            Confirmation.

            Hatton admits to not listening to Mayweather Sr.. "The heart ruled the head again"...

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              #36
              Originally posted by Ido
              Confirmation.

              Hatton admits to not listening to Mayweather Sr.. "The heart ruled the head again"...
              http://boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267636
              They wont pay attention to that, its still Sr.'s fault in their eyes.

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              • KnockMeOut
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                #37
                Originally posted by Bhopreign
                They wont pay attention to that, its still Sr.'s fault in their eyes.
                I said both their fault.
                Originally posted by KnockMeOut
                How do you even know Floyd sr's plan woulda worked? Manny dominated the whole fight. You mean to say that in 2 rounds we never even saw a glimpse of the so called game plan? Why did Hatton keep Floyd sr in his camp, just to crack jokes at each other? Hatton must have did at least one thing Floyd taught him to do. Why waste money in hiring Floyd if Ricky didnt get anything out of him.
                Im done here. I dont like repeating myself.

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                • Ido
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                  #38
                  In Hatton/Manny 24/7.

                  Sr. was well showboating on Hatton’s progression. However I forgot who mentioned it, but it was clearly stated and this particular comment was fermented in my mind. Something along:

                  “Hatton was picking up Sr’s defensive style and at times seemed to progress. However Hatton has the tendency to go back to old habits.”


                  In the end partial reason for Hattons defeat, was fighting his fight (he himself addmited), and not listening his corner (Clearly seen and heard in the first round).

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                  • Bad Boy Dazza
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                    #39
                    It seemed to me, listening to the advice being given in the corner at the end of round 1, that the 2 had no "connection". The way Mayweather spoke to Hatton really made that seem obvious.

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