Had Floyd Turned Pro At 16 He Would Have Been A 12 Weight Champ

[jrosales13]

floyd asked for a bigger ring they said no....floyd asked to pick his own gloves they said no...when floyd wanted to fight oscar in a rematch at 147 they said absolutely NOT. and anyone who saw that fight as a split decision is a complete moron... floyd won at least 7 rd's....AT LEAST 7 rd's.

Floyd won 8rds clearly. It was an even fight for the first 8rds and Floyd swept the last 4. But, lets not get off topic. So you are saying Floyd was in a disadvantage cuz Oscar made all those demands. Well then you are right Floyd was in a disadvantage.

But then I guess Pac had the same disadvantage since Oscar made all the demands in the fight. Oscar picked the weight, ref, judges, etc etc... Right?

[JAB5239]

From 106 to 154, sadly he would still be criticized.

Considering he only took home bronze at the Olympics, I would say no. This isn't hate detracting from his talent, only an observation.

[RightCross94]

Considering he only took home bronze at the Olympics, I would say no. This isn't hate detracting from his talent, only an observation.

Well I do believe Floyd got a raw deal in the fight he lost there. And it's true that most top amateurs are much better fighters than most pros anyway, and in some cases equal to world champions. So if he had turned pro at that age, and had 10-15 fights to adjust to the round length etc, he would have been more than ready to fight for world titles etc

[RightCross94]

yeah and what is funny is that people bring up the Morales loss to discredit manny, but El Terrible was a ****in beast his whole career. Atleast Manny had the balls to get in the ring with him, unlike Floyd who ducked him, even when Morales told him he would come up to 130 to fight him (Morales had barely moved up to 126 at the time).

Get fucked. Floyd did not duck Erik Morales you imbecile. You and I both know Floyd would have stained the ring canvas with Erik's blood in one sided fashion. If he was scared to fight a guy like Morales, why did he fight Corrales, who's much bigger, and hit way harder?

Look I don't want to disrespect Morales, but I will anyway: Floyd is on another level entirely to a guy like Morales. He would have completely whipped him.

[JAB5239]

Well I do believe Floyd got a raw deal in the fight he lost there. And it's true that most top amateurs are much better fighters than most pros anyway, and in some cases equal to world champions. So if he had turned pro at that age, and had 10-15 fights to adjust to the round length etc, he would have been more than ready to fight for world titles etc

While I agree top amateurs are most times better than a raw pro, Floyd at that time would have had credentials, but not what he earned by staying amateur for the time he did. Of course he would do well. At the same time you have to take into consideration that he most likely would have gotten some losses and how that MAY have weighed on his mentality, AND his brittle hands. No headgear makes a huge difference in the punishment your hands can take. Floyd is a great talent, I would never deny that. But as ridiculous as this thread is, there are things that should be considered. Like I said my friend, this ain't no knock on Floyd, only an observation.

[jaestix1]

Floyd won 8rds clearly. It was an even fight for the first 8rds and Floyd swept the last 4. But, lets not get off topic. So you are saying Floyd was in a disadvantage cuz Oscar made all those demands. Well then you are right Floyd was in a disadvantage.

But then I guess Pac had the same disadvantage since Oscar made all the demands in the fight. Oscar picked the weight, ref, judges, etc etc... Right?

odlh was ****** to underestimate a fighter of pac's pedigree. pac is the best fighter in the world at that time. dlh also didn't train smart...he killed himself training to lose the weight. not saying that it's pac's fault but another poster was putting pac's dlh win over floyd's dlh win. sure dlh was past it against floyd and pac but which dlh would you say was more dangerous?

[jaestix1]

Get fucked. Floyd did not duck Erik Morales you imbecile. You and I both know Floyd would have stained the ring canvas with Erik's blood in one sided fashion. If he was scared to fight a guy like Morales, why did he fight Corrales, who's much bigger, and hit way harder?

Look I don't want to disrespect Morales, but I will anyway: Floyd is on another level entirely to a guy like Morales. He would have completely whipped him.

lol, agreed...floyd at 130 would annihilate morales. no disrespect to morales.

[RightCross94]

While I agree top amateurs are most times better than a raw pro, Floyd at that time would have had credentials, but not what he earned by staying amateur for the time he did. Of course he would do well. At the same time you have to take into consideration that he most likely would have gotten some losses and how that MAY have weighed on his mentality, AND his brittle hands. No headgear makes a huge difference in the punishment your hands can take. Floyd is a great talent, I would never deny that. But as ridiculous as this thread is, there are things that should be considered. Like I said my friend, this ain't no knock on Floyd, only an observation.

Good post. I agree he would have had to pick up some losses on the way, and he wouldn't have been quite an olympic level fighter at 16. And yes this thread is a bit absurd.

[jrosales13]

odlh was ****** to underestimate a fighter of pac's pedigree. pac is the best fighter in the world at that time. dlh also didn't train smart...he killed himself training to lose the weight. not saying that it's pac's fault but another poster was putting pac's dlh win over floyd's dlh win. sure dlh was past it against floyd and pac but which dlh would you say was more dangerous?

Neither Oscar was dangerous. Oscar was done. I am a little bit more impressed with Pac in a sense that he stopped Oscar. And, that is something Floyd could of done if he would been just a little bit more aggresive. Oscar was just so done.

Fact is before Floyd-Oscar I said I will gove Floyd zero credit if he doesent stop an old part time fighter. And, I said the same thing for Pac. Manny wasn't going to get no credit from me if he didn't stop an old part time fighter. But, I don't go overboard with neither victory. Pac gets a lille credit from me cuz he stopped him. If it would of gone to the points that win would of meant nothing.

[jaestix1]

Neither Oscar was dangerous. Oscar was done. I am a little bit more impressed with Pac in a sense that he stopped Oscar. And, that is something Floyd could of done if he would been just a little bit more aggresive. Oscar was just so done.

Fact is before Floyd-Oscar I said I will gove Floyd zero credit if he doesent stop an old part time fighter. And, I said the same thing for Pac. Manny wasn't going to get no credit from me if he didn't stop an old part time fighter. But, I don't go overboard with neither victory. Pac gets a lille credit from me cuz he stopped him. If it would of gone to the points that win would of meant nothing.

so your giving no credit to a 148 pound floyd(who has never been a k.o. artist) for not k.oing a 165+ pound healthy, never been knocked out, 154 CHAMPION in odlh???...oh and lets not forget the glove? thats ridiculous.