why is JMM the #2 P4P when in reality it should be hopkins?

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jmm is #2 based majorly on the fact that hopkins has 1 foot in retirement.

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if manny looses to hatton....?

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if manny looses to hatton....?

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Rankings wise he's 3. Just off resume he's 2...

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I like JMM, but I love Hopkins...

However, I think JMM deserves the number 2 spot. JMM lost a close as hell decision to the Numero uno P4P (I had him winning 114-113, but I don't *****), then moved up to not only beat, but knock out, two of the best 135 pounders in the world, both guys known for having very good chins. Hopkins lost a close one to P4P 2 (I had it 114-113 Calzaghe), then beat up on a top rated, but very limited fighter in Kelly Pavlik, a top fighter at Middleweight.

Hopkins deserves to be up there, no doubt. But JMM deserves #2 for me..

Pretty much... JMM's win over Casamayor is underated IMO.

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I like JMM, but I love Hopkins...

However, I think JMM deserves the number 2 spot. JMM lost a close as hell decision to the Numero uno P4P (I had him winning 114-113, but I don't *****), then moved up to not only beat, but knock out, two of the best 135 pounders in the world, both guys known for having very good chins. Hopkins lost a close one to P4P 2 (I had it 114-113 Calzaghe), then beat up on a top rated, but very limited fighter in Kelly Pavlik, a top fighter at Middleweight.

Hopkins deserves to be up there, no doubt. But JMM deserves #2 for me..

Bernard Hopkins forces dudes to move up 10 pounds to fight them, Marquez comes and fights them at their divisions.. that's why.

Bernard also lost to Calzaghe, granted Marquez lost to Pacquiao but Marquez looked better in his defeat (many felt he won) then Bernard did in his.

Sums it up for me

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if he lasts less then 9, I don't blame him. You saw how small he looked against Diaz and even before that he was considered a small super featherweight. Now he is fighting @ jr. welter, a division he has never been in before.

Yes Casamayor is old but he had just come off a win against Katsidis.
Juan Diaz had never been KO'd.
but besides that, he unified the division.. Bernard was once a unified champion, that doesn't mean he is one now though.

Think about it, a blown up Wright, a loss to Joe, and a blown up Pavlik.
Does that really surpass what Marquez has done these last few fights?
I really don't think so.. adamek or dawson would put him above Marquez if Marquez losses to Mayweather, which he probably will.
If somehow, someway Marquez pulled the upset though, there is no way Hopkins is going above him.

If Marquez beats Floyd, I could possibly see him taking the #1 spot...

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Rankings wise he's 3. Just off resume he's 2...

^^^ I agree with this!

i dont have a problem with jmm being #2.. i want to know what u guys take in consideration....

Pretty much... JMM's win over Casamayor is underated IMO.

how come??? casa was coming from a loss to cruz!!

i think its the other way... that win is over rated!

casa did beat katsidis.. but katsidis is nothing but a good entertainer..

he doesnt belong to the elite

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If Marquez beats Floyd, I could possibly see him taking the #1 spot...

and what about if he last less than 9 and hatton beats pac!! ???