If Manny Pacquiao beats Ricky Hatton, He Will Be The Best Fighter Of Our Era

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  • Weebler I
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    #61
    Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
    yeh he waited untill Roy was 39 before he beat him? His wins over Mitchell and Eubank werent that great. Eubank was another old man he faced.

    His best wins are Lacy, Hopkins and Kessler. Even the Hopkins win is debatable.
    The Hopkin win isn't debatable no matter how much Retnard would like it to be. He humiliated RJJ and let's not forget Calzaghe was old too. Throw in his wins over Reid, Veit and Brewer too.

    You can pick holes in anyone's resume but Joe's is up there with the best if not the best. If he was American the hype would be unreal.

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    • supremelygifted
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      #62
      Originally posted by 2501
      Anyone who disagrees is straight out crazy, racist, and out of touch with reality.
      Didn't he get knocked out by another contender for that label?

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      • winac
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        #63
        Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
        Because you proberly dont know who the following fighters are:

        1) Winky Wright
        2) Felix Trinidad
        3) De La Hoya
        4) Castillo
        5) Corrales
        6) Judah
        7) Joppy
        8) Tarver
        9) Gatti
        10) Pavlik


        You obviously dont watch boxing other than when British fighters are fighting.
        I think most of those names should be credited to B-Hop

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        • Ishy Aytan
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          #64
          Originally posted by hammerhiem
          You can switch PBF and Bhop around for me but I like the rest.


          Sorry fella, but just cant see Hopkins as the greatest of this era due to the losses to Taylor and Calzaghe.

          He lost his p4p no1 status when he was fighting which will contributes to my overall decision.

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          • Ryn0
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            #65
            Originally posted by The Weebler II
            Calzaghe is the greatest, wasn't he 48-0 with beatings of RJJ, Kessler, Eubank, Mitchell, Lacy and Bernard Hopkin?

            The European fight names on that list might not mean much to Americans but I assure you they'd be stars already if they were from the US.
            Hes top 10, near the middle though.

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            • Ishy Aytan
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              #66
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              The Hopkin win isn't debatable no matter how much Retnard would like it to be. He humiliated RJJ and let's not forget Calzaghe was old too. Throw in his wins over Reid, Veit and Brewer too.

              You can pick holes in anyone's resume but Joe's is up there with the best if not the best. If he was American the hype would be unreal.
              Well seeing as im English that makes no sense.

              Listen Joe may have been like 36 when he fought Roy but last year was Joes best fighting year. He isnt old in terms of boxing. I mean how can a fighter be considered old when his best year in boxing was that same year?

              Makes no sense.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
                Sorry fella, but just cant see Hopkins as the greatest of this era due to the losses to Taylor and Calzaghe.

                He lost his p4p no1 status when he was fighting which will contributes to my overall decision.
                At 40+ years old? Most fighters are retired by then. Maybe SRR shouldnt be considered P4P best of all time because 12 of his losses came after he was 40...

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The Weebler II
                  The Hopkin win isn't debatable no matter how much Retnard would like it to be. He humiliated RJJ and let's not forget Calzaghe was old too. Throw in his wins over Reid, Veit and Brewer too.

                  You can pick holes in anyone's resume but Joe's is up there with the best if not the best. If he was American the hype would be unreal.
                  Those are not wins which determine the greatest fighters of the last era.

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                  • Ishy Aytan
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Ryn0
                    Hes top 10, near the middle though.


                    Have a look at my list.

                    Now seriously, who would you take out to put Calzaghe in?

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                    • Ishy Aytan
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Ryn0
                      At 40+ years old? Most fighters are retired by then. Maybe SRR shouldnt be considered P4P best of all time because 12 of his losses came after he was 40...


                      Not the point, he didnt lose to Taylor or Calzaghe due to his age factor as is proven due to his impressive wins after.

                      He lost because he couldnt beat them..... Although i thought he beat Calzaghe.

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