Did manny pacquiao duck joan guzman?

[gopi11]

We can eternally spin through hypotheticals..or we can deal with the realities.

If I dial through your supposition, then it devalues JMM's accomplishments at LW, and so forth and so on...

Your logic , while I understand the motivation, would mean that we didn't get Ali-Frazier 3.

We can agree to disagree, it happens all the time. It doesn't mean that I'm right, nor that does make your take wrong, as long we can have a healthy discussion, it's all good. There's been a flooding of trolls lately, I guess the bridge went down and they all got out!

[QUISQUEYA]

We can agree to disagree, it happens all the time. It doesn't mean that I'm right, nor that does make your take wrong, as long we can have a healthy discussion, it's all good. There's been a flooding of trolls lately, I guess the bridge went down and they all got out!

I'm a HUGE Pac fan. Love him. The annoying Tiny Pinoys, notwithstanding. But a critical analysis of Pac's resume will show that he has beaten ONE top level fighter in the past five or six years. And there's a large segment of the boxing public who feels that he lost one or both of those fights against that guy.

[Jim Jeffries]

But David Diaz deserved a shot...right?

Diaz was Pac's first fight at LW, and gave the DLH matchup a bit more credibility (otherwise he would've been jumping THREE weight classes.)

Anyway, the answer is no, Guzman was an incredible wasted talent, whose career is over.

[QUISQUEYA]

Diaz was Pac's first fight at LW, and gave the DLH matchup a bit more credibility (otherwise he would've been jumping THREE weight classes.)

Anyway, the answer is no, Guzman was an incredible wasted talent, whose career is over.

JJ,

Is that Froch? He's ripped up.

[JOM'S]

I'm a HUGE Pac fan. Love him. The annoying Tiny Pinoys, notwithstanding. But a critical analysis of Pac's resume will show that he has beaten ONE top level fighter in the past five or six years. And there's a large segment of the boxing public who feels that he lost one or both of those fights against that guy.

what critical analysis??? I dont get it how can you call yourself a PAC FAN if you REALLY believe that...

Barrera & Morales not a TOP LEVEL??

A Barerra who beat Morales in their third fight and who gave Marquez all he can handle??

A Morales who beat PAC on their first fight and was on his way to beating PAC for the first five rounds of their fight before PAC up the ante??

It is also argue by a large portion of the public that PAC won both fights versus the Lone TOP LEVEL you mentioned who had a hard time against Marco and if not for the four point swing round anything could have happen ...

both fights that close that good that we need another one...

[ELPacman]

You know, I think it comes down to P4P these days, you sort of swing in and out of the best fighters. You face the very best you can and win to get the acknowledgement of P4P #1, then you swing around beating up inferior fighters(tuneups) just about, to keep that status of P4P. To face the very very best in each division, hardly any #1 P4P fighter has done. But I know many of the haters on Manny's P4P status come from Floyd fans, and you ask, who has Floyd faced that was the very very best in the divisions? He's faced more weaker comp than Manny when Manny picked his lower tuneup guys. I love the Floyd fans who love to go bragging about that Gatti win. Gatti is like beyond a lower tuneup fight. He never was elite, and at 147lbs, he was too small already. Who was there?

[strugler]

I'm a HUGE Pac fan. Love him. The annoying Tiny Pinoys, notwithstanding. But a critical analysis of Pac's resume will show that he has beaten ONE top level fighter in the past five or six years. And there's a large segment of the boxing public who feels that he lost one or both of those fights against that guy.

LMAO...if you think that way...who fought more challenges than PAC the last five years? al i got is BHOP and their close............

[PrtyBoyDlicious]

I can't believe Goozerun is being discuss here after what he did to the Galaxy Warrior...shame...he ducked him on day of the fight...even though they could still fight regardless of Goozerun's weight issue...now who the **** ducked who?

[PrtyBoyDlicious]

I'm a HUGE Pac fan. Love him. The annoying Tiny Pinoys, notwithstanding. But a critical analysis of Pac's resume will show that he has beaten ONE top level fighter in the past five or six years. And there's a large segment of the boxing public who feels that he lost one or both of those fights against that guy.

Stop generalizing you skunky ***g as$...Me, tiny? I could whoop your ***g ass inside your house! YEAH!!! Even your daddy...Stop calling names fool...

[QUISQUEYA]

what critical analysis??? I dont get it how can you call yourself a PAC FAN if you REALLY believe that...

Barrera & Morales not a TOP LEVEL??

The first fight against a top level Barrera. Fer sure. The first fight (loss) vs a still-good Morales.

Morales was badly faded in their rematch and was completely toast in the third fight. The MAB rematch was just plain unnecessary.

Learn the frikkin' sport.