would you consider pacquiao the best 140 pounder if he beats hatton?

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  • The_Demon
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    #41
    Originally posted by raycorey
    No, It wouldnt make pacman the best 140 without beating the top 1 or 2 140 Ib, I dont really think Hatton is the best 140 Ib anyway.

    This would be like Mayweather beating Baldomir at 147 even though their were better fighters at 147 than baldomir.
    whos the best at 140lbs then? i take it ur on the bradley bandwagon

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      #42
      Originally posted by pacman777
      who is bradley?

      Pay attention to boxing..not just one fighter.

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        #43
        Originally posted by british_fan
        well hatton is the man,and im sure manny would be classed as the man if he wins.but id need to see another fight before i said that,just my opinion


        Manny will be the man if he wins, we can't do anything about that, that's the traditional way to get to a divisional top. Just like you, I have doubts too. I also want to see him fight again at the same weight division against a deserving, well respected and highly ranked opponent, to put any doubts away.

        But he will still be the man (if he wins) even if everybody's doubting him. That's the way of the boxing world, which withstood the test of time for over a hundred years...

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          #44
          Originally posted by british_fan
          whos the best at 140lbs then? i take it ur on the bradley bandwagon
          Yes i believe Bradley would beat Hatton..simple

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            #45
            If Pacman beats Hatton he would be the man because hatton is the man at 140 but he wouldnt be the best fighter at 140.

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              #46
              Originally posted by raycorey
              No, It wouldnt make pacman the best 140 without beating the top 1 or 2 140 Ib, I dont really think Hatton is the best 140 Ib anyway.

              This would be like Mayweather beating Baldomir at 147 even though their were better fighters at 147 than baldomir.

              And that would be your personal opinion, and I respect that. Just like what I previously said, if you think Hatton's the man at 140, and Pacquiao beats him, Manny's the man.

              Honestly, I'm having doubts myself about Ricky Hatton being the man at 140 too. There's four (or 5?) Jr. welterweight champions out there at the moment, and Ricky hasn't fought any one of them yet. It just so happen Hatton beat the man back in 05, and now he's the man. A king has to lay it on the line once in a while to prove to all and sundry that he's still the man. It's been 4 years now and I'm still waiting.

              ... and that's just my personal opinion too.

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                #47
                Originally posted by british_fan
                whos the best at 140lbs then?
                Bradley has two belts, and wins over Holt and Witter, there's no better candidate outside of the 'super-fight' brigade. Against Pacquiao or Hatton, though, who knows... ? I don't see any evidence that suggests Bradley would be favourite in a fight against either and it's evidence and results that count, not 'I think's'.

                Originally posted by gopi11
                A king has to lay it on the line once in a while to prove to all and sundry that he's still the man. It's been 4 years now and I'm still waiting.
                Malignaggi. Whatever you might say about the guy after the fight, before it Pauli was generally recognised as the guy Hatton had to beat to demonstrate continued 140 supremacy. Do a trawl through the history here, if you like. Hatton did beat him. But, get rid of one guy and along comes the next...
                Last edited by The_Visitation; 04-25-2009, 06:54 AM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by raycorey
                  Pay attention to boxing..not just one fighter.

                  huh? i do wathc other boxers, dont watch no names thou

                  if that's your thing then good for you

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by The_Visitation
                    Bradley has two belts, and wins over Holt and Witter, there's no better candidate outside of the 'super-fight' brigade. Against Pacquiao or Hatton, though, who knows... ? I don't see any evidence that suggests Bradley would be favourite in a fight against either and it's evidence and results that count, not 'I think's'.



                    Malignaggi. Whatever you might say about the guy after the fight, before it Pauli was generally recognised as the guy Hatton had to beat to demonstrate continued 140 supremacy. Do a trawl through the history here, if you like. Hatton did beat him. But, get rid of one guy and along comes the next...


                    I may be wrong, but I think Malignaggi gave up the "throne" before the Hatton fight? I'm not really sure about this, I think I read it somewhere.

                    But if what you say is true, then my bad...

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by raycorey
                      If Pacman beats Hatton he would be the man because hatton is the man at 140 but he wouldnt be the best fighter at 140.
                      wdf are you saying? he would be the man but not the best? do you even know what that means... dont clown

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