POLL: Mosley, an ATG??

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  • ChiRock773
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    #21
    Originally posted by -Blackout-
    Then Roy Jones Jr isn't an ATG either? Steroids are overrated..

    If steroids are overrated then whats the point of using them???

    IF you think that SMM's condition at 37 years old has nothing to do with steroids then you are a fool.....

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      #22
      Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
      Ex,

      ATG?! really?

      Where do you have him ranked? Top 25? Top 50? Top 100?

      Do you rank him DEFINITIVELY above these guys of his generation (ish):

      Whitaker
      Jones, Jr
      Holyfield
      Hopkins
      Chavez
      Mayweather
      Barrera
      Morales
      Pacquiao
      Lewis
      Chavez
      Wright
      Etc...

      Can a guy be an ALL TIME great if he isn't in the top 15 of his own era?
      well he said top 100...and Shane has a better resume than Winky

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      • Luis12
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        #23
        Originally posted by cruzan mario
        U damn right he is,I'll put it like so,fought everyone on the block and won most of his big fights,doesnt matter if he lost 5,they were all against elite fighters!!Mosley is world class baby!!!!!!!!!!1
        totally agreed. that's what fighters are suppose to do. fight the best.

        mosley fought and want to fight against the best. he's in

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        • -Blackout-
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          #24
          Originally posted by ChiRock773
          If steroids are overrated then whats the point of using them???

          IF you think that SMM's condition at 37 years old has nothing to do with steroids then you are a fool.....
          Yup, because James Toney.. The dounut eating belly who is known for good conditioning (who also used steroids) is also in great shape today because of his steroids right? Nope, not really.

          People tend to believe you take some steroids and wake up the next morning ripped up and strong as a bull.. That's not the case.. it takes hard work no matter what.. Is it fair to use it? No, it isn't.. Does it affect him 5 years later that he once took it? Hell naw.. Look at Vargas and Toney.. They took it.. You won't find two past-prime fighters in worse conditioning.

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          • FLY TY
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            #25
            Originally posted by cruzan mario
            U damn right he is,I'll put it like so,fought everyone on the block and won most of his big fights,doesnt matter if he lost 5,they were all against elite fighters!!Mosley is world class baby!!!!!!!!!!1
            besides DLH, what elite fighter has mosley beaten?

            good, good fighter....but not an ATG.

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            • Clegg
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              #26
              No.

              The guys he beat:

              DLH
              Margarito
              Vargas (very past-prime)
              Mayorga (past-prime)
              Collazo

              The guys he lost to

              Forrest
              Cotto
              Wright

              IMO that is not enough to be considered an ATG.

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              • Pugilistic™
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                #27
                I would say so yes.

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                  #28
                  There are actually people out there that dont think Mosley is an all-time great??

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                  • QUISQUEYA
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Piper the Great
                    he in the top 5 of is era.

                    holyfield, chavez, & whitaker not his era.
                    You are stoopid. I have video of Shane sparring with Chavez. How could they not be the same era? Their boxing careers had substantial overlap.

                    Oscar fought Whitaker in 97, Chavez in 98, and Mosley in 2000.

                    Five guys more highly regarded than Shane: Pac, Mayweather, Hopkins, Jones, Holyfield. Your "top 5" just got ****ed in the ass.

                    Stay in your lane, junior.

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                    • QUISQUEYA
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Clegg
                      No.

                      The guys he beat:

                      DLH
                      Margarito
                      Vargas (very past-prime)
                      Mayorga (past-prime)
                      Collazo

                      The guys he lost to

                      Forrest
                      Cotto
                      Wright

                      IMO that is not enough to be considered an ATG.
                      These morons don't know what "ALL TIME" great means.

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