Mayweather fans:What exactly is a welterweight?

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  • El Dominicano
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    #21
    Originally posted by texanballer
    For the record Mosley, Williams, Cotto, Mosley, Marquez, Pacquiao, if he beat one of them, that win would be the best on his resume. That is a problem in my eyes.
    1st off, Mayweather's wins against JLC, and Corrales are better then beating a past prime SSM, JMM (When he is now viewed as a WW). On paper, Pac would be his best win, being as how accomplished Pac is (I gotta more respect for Floyd beating JLC and Corrales) Paul Williams...not so sure. It'll be a fight that he is expected to win and it'll only be a good win because of Paul's size

    As for Cotto, I'll tell you straight up...I don't know...

    Good poll to make

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    • wmute
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      #22
      If Mayweather cannot go below 147 on weigh ins, then he is a welterweight by definition.

      If he is just leveraging money and advantage from Marquez, he is just doing his job the way he should. Ask Ray Leonard or Oscar De La Hoya.

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      • AztecWanker
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        #23
        Originally posted by Sin City
        Mayweather fans would say he is a natural flyweight just to justify another fight with a smaller fighter..
        ****, I bet they would have no problem with Floyd fighting Ivan Calderon.
        Mayweather fans are like Mayweather: ***** ass nuggas.
        Pay no attention to them.


        First of, I am a Floyd fan and I'm happy that he's coming back. But I'm also disappointed that he's fighting JMM at what seems like WW. Everyone can agree that JMM is a tuneup but a tuneup for whom? For Pac? Likely. But if Floyd really wants to make a statement and solidify his legacy, he should fight Miguel Cotto and no other person. ,

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        • a-raines21
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          #24
          Originally posted by texanballer
          For the record Mosley, Williams, Cotto, Mosley, Marquez, Pacquiao, if he beat one of them, that win would be the best on his resume. That is a problem in my eyes.
          says the guy with marg in his avatar...... marg is a hoe...... so shut you mouth

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          • wmute
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            #25
            Originally posted by Gift Of Gab


            First of, I am a Floyd fan and I'm happy that he's coming back. But I'm also disappointed that he's fighting JMM at what seems like WW. Everyone can agree that JMM is a tuneup but a tuneup for whom? For Pac? Likely. But if Floyd really wants to make a statement and solidify his legacy, he should fight Miguel Cotto and no other person. ,
            Why not Mosley? If it's one fight, it should be the winner of Mosley-Cotto 2. Even if Margarito was caught cheating, Cotto still got hammered by him and Mosley obliterated Margarito

            My hunch is that because losing and gaining muscle mass is not good for fighters, If Mayweather fights Pac, it won't be at 147 and he is not going to a fight a WW afterwards and vice versa if he fights a welter he ain't going back down. Pac makes PBF more money than any welter, so... unless arum manages to convince Pac that there is more money and less risk in Cotto than in Mayweather.

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              #26
              Originally posted by wmute
              Why not Mosley? If it's one fight, it should be the winner of Mosley-Cotto 2. Even if Margarito was caught cheating, Cotto still got hammered by him and Mosley obliterated Margarito

              My hunch is that because losing and gaining muscle mass is not good for fighters, If Mayweather fights Pac, it won't be at 147 and he is not going to a fight a WW afterwards and vice versa if he fights a welter he ain't going back down. Pac makes PBF more money than any welter, so... unless arum manages to convince Pac that there is more money and less risk in Cotto than in Mayweather.
              Mosley is the other WW that I was thinking of. He's on his last legs, though and I would expect Floyd to beat him soundly at this stage of their careers . Still, Floyd and Cotto match-up a whole lot better than Floyd and Mosley.

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              • wmute
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                #27
                Originally posted by Gift Of Gab
                Mosley is the other WW that I was thinking of. He's on his last legs, though and I would expect Floyd to beat him soundly at this stage of their careers . Still, Floyd and Cotto match-up a whole lot better than Floyd and Mosley.
                I go back and forth on which is the best matchup there. As you point out Mosley is obviously aging, put the difference in footspeed between Mayweather and Cotto, might make it possible for Mayweather to pull one of his "negative" fights. That would be interesting but not exciting to watch.

                What I was saying is that at this point, legacywise I don't see Cotto being better than Mosley or vice versa.

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                • warp1432
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                  #28
                  Does it matter though? This fight is considered a tune up by most and it's obvious he probably won't get credit for the win besides getting a high p4p ranking back.

                  As long as he isn't considered "the champ" I don't think he has to fight necessarily a true welter. Not in his first fight back anyway. Also Pacquiao-Mayweather is an appropriate 147 fight.

                  I don't like this fight, but it's going to happen anyway. It's also a bit more interesting then DLH-Mayweather 2 or Hatton-Mayweather 2

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                  • flipbjefrox
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                    #29
                    floyd is a welterweight who doesnt like to fight welterweights

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                    • Bushbaby
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                      #30
                      Quit hating on floyd,he is the self proclaimed greatest ever!!!He is so good,he does not have to fight elite fighters,he would murder them!!!We should all be thankfull that floyd is giving,smaller fighters and fighters who have no chance of beating him a chance,to fight the self proclaimed greatest ever!!!To bad for my boy the Punisher and Cotto,they have it wrong,u are not supposed to fight the best,its just unfair to everyone who knows for a fact ur gonna win!!!

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