De La Hoya Beats Pacquiao if Not Drained, Says Steward

[jetgeomcx]

Oscar did not call out Pacquiao...Frddie Roach went on record saying Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore and Pacquiao can beat him and KO him, Oscar got angry at those comments and accepted the challenge..Don;t forget De La Hoya's plans was to fight Mayweather in a rematch then that fell apart then it was to fight Miguel Cotto if Cotto would have beaten Margarito...

....then turned to midget manny for the most regrettable decision that he ever made in his life....

[jetgeomcx]

indeed. and a prime de la hoya would have annihilated pacquiao in 2 rounds.

really, in 2 rounds...this will never ever could have happened. because....there won't be any fyt between them in the first place! aihiiiiiii

[J.B.moneY.]

thanks i knew you would enjoy that.....so what if pac beat de la hoya and the paper champ diaz.....there not impressive wins at all.....cant people see reality for what its worth

[jetgeomcx]

I agree with this Post. DLH didn't have to fight Pac. Oscar was the one that asked Manny to Jump two weight Divisions from his last fight.

Oscar could have asked any of the top Welters to make the Move to 154 for a big fight. No doubt, Cotto or Margarito etc would have jumped at the chance.

it was nobody's doing and/or undoing except oscar's.....and therefor nobody to blame except oscar. he fooled everyone and everybody during the run-up to the fyt, even made a fool of himself in the process.....but i still admire his exploits and continuous contributions to this sport.

[jetgeomcx]

lets be clear....oscar did not call pac out.....the pac-oscar fight was the idea of larry merchant....and freddie roach pushed it, and then oscar excepted.....roach knew pac could beat a over the hill fighter, and that it would make manny look like a boxing god.....smart move by roach.

the oscar that even fought pbf probably wins a decision against pac that night.....but

that being said, pac did what he had to do to win, give credit where credit is do.

are u kidding?? 'the oscar that fought pbf' could have anihilated manny.....that is if they get to fyt at 147. we can't change that part of history...anyway

[baracuda]

I know all this. I'm not trying to give excuses, I am just trying to say why he lost. He got greedy and decimated himself in order to make weight. He went into the ring a dead man. Any decent contender from 140+ would have beaten him.

excuses and assumptions

[hans9]

preparing for the fight is just as important as the fight itself...

if you didn't train enough and you lost -- it's your fault..
if you overtrained and you lost -- it's your fault..

in boxing, the fight already starts in training...

[trainhard_187]

thanks i knew you would enjoy that.....so what if pac beat de la hoya and the paper champ diaz.....there not impressive wins at all.....cant people see reality for what its worth

There impressive to me, near shutouts over two bigger men. So they werent as elite as a Marquez but Juan Diaz and Casamayor werent even listed as an elite top 10 fighter either and Marquez still had trouble with both, Pac SHUT BOTH FIGHTERS OUT.

But the real question was coming into those fights were "Can Pac handle the extra weight". Pac walked in against Delahoya at 148, and whatever the case anyone claims DLH to be that night had nothing to do with the fact that Pac still being FASTER and still having POWER, remember that come May 2

[cuzfozzy]

PAC won the fight ... thats all that matters ...
it showed Pac had the better team
and with Moorer I think Pac's team is even better
what does Moorer bring ? more power

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

who's fault was it that he was weight drained ?

you could say if moorer had of boxed more he would have beaten
foreman on points. foreman would have beaten ali if he had paced
himself... it goes on and on..

Being out boxed and not pacing your self are completely different things then being weight drained. The outboxed and not pacing yourself happens in the ring being weight drained happens before you get in the ring. So in reality you come into the ring with a immediate disadvantage. Allowing your self to be outpointed because you didnt throw your jab enough is your own fault. Which is what happened in the fight when ODLH lost a SD to Money May. Punching your self out because you are being taunted is your own fault and ****** on your part. Is what happened to Foreman in that fight against Ali. Allowing yourself to lose control because you are being head butted is your own fault which is what happened to Tyson. These are things you have control over. Being weight drained does not happen in the ring it happens duriong training camp and before you enter the ring. You have personal trainers hired and nutricianist to help you manage you weight and they are supposed to avoid things like that. Totally different things.....You can alot of things but being weight drained is NOT the same as what you comapred it to being. Now not training for a fight is the same as what you mentioned because the boxer himself didnt train that is his fault and NO ONE ELSES....What Tyson did when he lost to Douglas can be a prime example of that....he didnt take the fight seriously and lost becauise he didnt train he lost. Same as not using his jab or not pacing hiself. You can say well if he was better conditioned and trained harder he might have beaten Douglas easily.......That to me is comparable not what you are saying about ODLH.....Lefty