calzaghe & de la hoya, who had the better career?

[Technical_Skill]

Really??? How do you know this? Calzaghe would have been a match for any fighter from MW-LHW in the last 10 years.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda,

he was class, but he didnt.

Oscar.

[Left Hook Tua]

Chavez was done when Oscar beat him, his hunger wasn't there. Hopkins was and still is a top 5 p4per the fact he was 42 means nothing.

why? because he beat kelly pavlik? kelly pavlik is not that good. what makes pavlik so good? because he beat taylor? what makes taylor so good? because he beat hopkins? it's just a circle jerk.

hopkins if he was anywhere close to being half as good as he was would not have lost to jermain taylor twice.

[Left Hook Tua]

Really??? How do you know this? Calzaghe would have been a match for any fighter from MW-LHW in the last 10 years.

uh huh......you do know that hopkins and roy wasn't in their 40's 10 years ago right?

just asking.

[boxasmash]

calzaghe wasn't 37 10 years ago either.

[Technical_Skill]

why? because he beat kelly pavlik? kelly pavlik is not that good. what makes pavlik so good? because he beat taylor? what makes taylor so good? because he beat hopkins? it's just a circle jerk.

hopkins if he was anywhere close to being half as good as he was would not have lost to jermain taylor twice.

Pavlik isnt that bad, sometimes people confuse not having great boxing skill with making you a bad fighter.

Pavlik isnt technically great at all, but he is effective and he can follow a gameplan, taylor couldn't that's why he lost, Holt couldn't a few weeks ago, thats why he lost, some fighters can stick to it, some can't.

You get naturally talented fighters that aren't great at the basics and get beat by lesser talented fighters, the ability to think under pressure, stick to a plan and be good at boxing basics shouldn't be underestimated.

Pavlik, Kessler et al, these guys are good at the bread and butter of boxing (Kessler for sure), they aint flashy, but they can get it done.

[Hitman Hodgson]

uh huh......you do know that hopkins and roy wasn't in their 40's 10 years ago right?

just asking.

Yeah. Jones wasn't in his 40s when Calzaghe beat him either.

[PAC-BOY]

Oscar De LA Hoya......Whos Joe Calzaghe?

[Savino]

Oscar for me hands down.

[Pullcounter]

de la hoya has literally fought everyone

yes, and calz has literally almost fought no one.

dlh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> calz

[Left Hook Tua]

Yeah. Jones wasn't in his 40s when Calzaghe beat him either.

okay. 39 turning 40.

my bad.