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  • #91
    Originally posted by GreatJoe View Post
    How can anyone call Valero a "prospect".

    He's a "two time, two weight" World Champion.


    Doesn't make sense.
    What elite fighters has he beaten?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by HK45 View Post
      Lol at the brits that are saying Prescott just because he beat the **** out of their beloved Amir Kahn. Valero's pop is on another level for this division and seing the way Prescott struggled in his last fight against a fringe contender, there's no way he win this. Valero KO 2.
      Prescott did not struggle! He dominated the entire fight and hurt Toledo repeatedly. That's like saying Hopkins struggled against Pavlik.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
        What elite fighters has he beaten?
        So your a prospect until you beat elite fighters?


        An elite fighter is also a matter of opinion, son.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by GreatJoe View Post
          So your a prospect until you beat elite fighters?
          That's a good definition of a prospect - at least in divisional terms, I don't mean P4P elite, but elite in terms of being objectively one of the best in the division, as opposed to journeymen.

          Originally posted by GreatJoe View Post
          An elite fighter is also a matter of opinion, son.
          In your honest opinion, what elite fighters has he beaten?
          Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-16-2009, 08:41 AM.

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          • #95
            prescotts a class above

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            • #96
              Daam, should be a cracker! If this **** goes past rounds ill be suprised! I got valero by KO

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
                That's a good definition of a prospect.



                In your honest opinion, what elite fighters has he beaten?
                A prospect is someone expected; a possibility of them winning a world title.

                Elite fighters don't come into it.


                I don't understand you, are you flaming? or just ******ed?

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                • #98
                  A prospect is an up and coming fighter that is expected to win titles, Valero has won titles in 2 weight classes, once a fighter wins a title, he shouldn't be known as a prospect anymore IMO, in fact once a fighter starts getting ranked in the top 10, he should be considered a contender more than a prospect, even if it's relatively early in his career.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Silencers View Post
                    A prospect is an up and coming fighter that is expected to win titles, Valero has won titles in 2 weight classes, once a fighter wins a title, he shouldn't be known as a prospect anymore IMO, in fact once a fighter starts getting ranked in the top 10, he should be considered a contender more than a prospect, even if it's relatively early in his career.
                    The thing is, he won both titles against journeymen. The alphabet rankings are corrupt and a lot of journeymen are given title shots, but beating journeymen doesn't prove anything.

                    He hasn't yet proved himself against any of the top fighters in either division, and because he looks so raw and wild in his fights, the jury is very much out on whether he will be able to cut it when he does step up in class. Prescott will be by a long way his biggest test so far, IMO. And his own Ring ranking is based on his KO record rather than on the fighters he's actually beaten. I don't mind calling him a contender though. In my eyes you can be both a prospect and a contender, because prospect simply means unproven, and until he fights one of the top fighters in his division, I think he is unproven.
                    Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-16-2009, 08:57 AM.

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                    • ****tttttttttttt. This is the best news I've heard all week!

                      I think Prescott will make Valero look like the bum that he is. Even though I practically loathe the guy otherwise for KO'ing Khan, I still appreciate the fact that he can **** and box. Valero, on the other hand, disappointed me majorly after all the hype I heard about him on here - I watched a few fights of his (both recent and old), and I found myself laughing...

                      For real. I was fuckin chuckling ****less at this mullet-haired prick swinging his arms about wildly, leaving himself wide open, and hoping for something to land. Sure, Prescott kinda telegraphs his haymakers as well, but at least he keeps his earmuffs up and actually looks like a boxer out there. There's just something far more likeable about him than that tattooed Venezuelan who hasn't fought anyone with a pulse.

                      So I don't see him going too far with Prescott. As soon as a bomb comes his way, Valero gets KO'ed in 5. And then I'll really be laughing - mainly because that could mean my long-awaited dream match of Katsidis-Prescott.

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