What's the difference between Kelly Pavlik and Carl Froch?

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  • The_Demon
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    #41
    Originally posted by egreezy
    This is the truth. And as free swinging and wild Pascal can get he had no trouble landing on Froch. Just watit til a faster, more precise Taylor gets in there.
    exactly,pascal was a poor mans lacy

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    • Cortezsucks
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      #42
      Originally posted by Down4TheCount
      miranda, zertuche , taylor , zuiniga , rubio kos > than any bum ko froch has.

      im a pascal fan and a canadian and ill be the first one to say if froch had better power than pavlik he would knocked pascal the **** out.


      i hate Froch as much as thenext man but be real. Pavlik does not hit as hard as froch to suggest otherwise is unwise.

      Na mean?

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        #43
        Originally posted by The_Bringer
        what's the difference between Kelly Pavlik and Carl Froch?

        Kelly Pavlik is American, and Froch is a Euro bum.

        No, seriously though.

        Pavlik did have a better record of competition before facing Taylor than Froch does. Froch has Pascal, as his big win. Pavlik had Zuniga, Miranda, and Zertuche.

        I like Taylor to win a decision, but Froch is very lively in this. Taylor has **** stamina.
        What my main point was is that if Taylor can be stopped at 160 by Pavlik then he can certainly be stopped at 168 by a more powerful Carl Froch.

        Doesn't really matter how good of a boxer Taylor is, if he can be taken out, he can be taken out, and Froch has the ability to take him out.

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        • ACHlLLES
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          #44
          Originally posted by Chunk
          What my main point was is that if Taylor can be stopped at 160 by Pavlik then he can certainly be stopped at 168 by a more powerful Carl Froch.
          Carl froch does not have more power then pavlik, Froch hasn't ko'd anyone of note. Couldn't even KO pascal, when pascal was hurt by other opponents who don't even have power.

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          • Down4TheCount
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            #45
            Originally posted by Cortezsucks
            i hate Froch as much as thenext man but be real. Pavlik does not hit as hard as froch to suggest otherwise is unwise.

            Na mean?
            once again i ask how its possible to come to this conclusion ? so if froch loses or doesnt ko him i guess ull be proved wrong then ?

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              #46
              Originally posted by Chunk
              Pavilk's power is unproven at 168. Froch's power isn't. FACT.
              He was unable to knock out Jean Pascal...who else did Froch knock out at 168?

              Taylor will win this fight by decision, many people bringing up the Pavlik fight are forgetting that styles make fights, Froch doesnt throw as much as Pavlik does, nor does he throws as many combinations as Pavlik, infact he throws single punches. I saw Jean Pascal hurt more in his other fights than the fight with Froch, a journeyman hurt him more. Froch couldn't even KO a past-prime Robin Reid, he made him quit.

              People are also forgetting Taylor has had weight issues, and he will be much comfortable at 168, he had been weight drained in his past fights and both Steward and Taylor mentioned this before. Both Taylor and Froch have a habit of keeping their hands low, but Taylor is the more proven fighter.

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                #47
                Originally posted by D3adpool
                Carl froch does not have more power then pavlik, Froch hasn't ko'd anyone of note. Couldn't even KO pascal, when pascal was hurt by other opponents who don't even have power.
                This fight is at 168. Pavlik's power is unproven at 168. Froch's power isn't. FACT.

                Lets take away the fact that, a lot of the top opponents at 168 didn't want to know when Froch came a calling.

                He has offered to fight anyone at that weight class! Kessler, Bute, Balzsay and Taylor were all called out, but no one responded. Taylor declined not to face Froch and instead fought Jeff Lacy for crying out loud! Denis Inkin pulled out of a fight with Froch TWICE!

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Parody
                  He was unable to knock out Jean Pascal...who else did Froch knock out at 168?

                  Taylor will win this fight by decision, many people bringing up the Pavlik fight are forgetting that styles make fights, Froch doesnt throw as much as Pavlik does, nor does he throws as many combinations as Pavlik, infact he throws single punches. I saw Jean Pascal hurt more in his other fights than the fight with Froch, a journeyman hurt him more. Froch couldn't even KO a past-prime Robin Reid, he made him quit.

                  People are also forgetting Taylor has had weight issues, and he will be much comfortable at 168, he had been weight drained in his past fights and both Steward and Taylor mentioned this before. Both Taylor and Froch have a habit of keeping their hands low, but Taylor is the more proven fighter.
                  We'll have to agree to disagree on that one mate.

                  The fact is, Pavlik's power is unproven at 168.

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                    #49
                    What's the difference between them? Have you never watched either of them fight?

                    Pavlik is a high workrate, pressure fighter who always comes forward and pumps his jab non-stop, using it to set up his right hand. He's done good body work in his recent fights but struggles with movement and angles. He keeps his hands high and defends his chin pretty well. He's tall and fights tall.

                    Froch is an awkward fighter who sometimes applies pressure but is also happy to sit and wait for counterpunching opportunities. He often throws one shot at a time, looking for a KO. He's strong but the verdict is still out on just how strong he is at the world level. He keeps his hands low and is EASY to hit. He's got a decent jab when he remembers to use it, but it's nowhere near as proven as Pavlik's (or Taylor's). He's not as tall as Kelly and doesn't fight as tall either.
                    There are a LOT of differences between Froch and Pavlik.

                    You'd be smarter to ask how they are similar.... they are both white boxers within 8 lbs of each other with good power. THE END.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Chunk

                      The fact is, Pavlik's power is unproven at 168.
                      So, how many posts are you going to make about Pavlik's power at 168 or him being one dimensional? Is that making you feel better about Froch's chances against Taylor?

                      Here's what it comes down to, Froch is fighting Taylor, not Pavlik. FACT.
                      Triangle theories mean NOTHING. FACT.

                      On this board Pavlik is one of the most underrated fighters today. FACT.

                      Oh, and Taylor takes this fight, easily. FACT.

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