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  • #71
    Originally posted by SRcrit View Post
    I was thinking Hatton might box more also after hearing how fast he was catching on and how improved his defense and speed were with one more camp with Sr. But after seeing that 24/7 episode I think he'd do better sticking to his old style. He looked like he was still learning, you figure to use it effectively in the ring it should be 2nd nature. I think he'll be worse off if he tries to box, he'll be thinking to much while Pac wil be unloading combos. It's too late for him to change.
    I don't know my man. Hatton looked pretty good in the Malignaggi fight
    despite what a lot of people say about him. He didn't hold at all & caught
    Pauli with some pretty good hooks & jabs. I really think you guys are
    sleepy on Hatton. Pacquiao when he fights guys that can hang & ****
    with him he gets caught flush & wobbled. Pacquiao won't be that much
    faster than Hatton.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
      Episode 1 speaks for itself, Hatton getting watered down tired as hell after training especially since he has to readjust coming down from 160 in between his last fight, while Pac pummels his sparring partners and still has time to workout. Plus Hatton's interview with Lamphely during the Wright-Williams fight Hatton was bruised up so you know DAMN SURE that the Cuban Southpaw Fighter is giving Hatton trouble. Two signs right there for you.
      I mean Hatton has been fighting comfortably at 140 remaining undefeated there for most of his career. Why would he have problems making the weight if he's used to fighting in his comfort zone? He's the champ of the division. Maybe he was getting watered down because he was training harder than usual, don't you think so? Also have to take into consideration that maybe the Cuban South Paw is a strong fighter & maybe even tougher than Pac? There are a lot of scenerios in play right now but I see and hear a lot of confidence and determination in Hatton's voice for him to be taking Pacquiao lightly.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
        I don't know my man. Hatton looked pretty good in the Malignaggi fight
        despite what a lot of people say about him. He didn't hold at all & caught
        Pauli with some pretty good hooks & jabs. I really think you guys are
        sleepy on Hatton. Pacquiao when he fights guys that can hang & ****
        with him he gets caught flush & wobbled. Pacquiao won't be that much
        faster than Hatton.
        Hatton did look good in the Malignaggi fight, but comparing his and Pac styles is like me comparing Ricky to David Diaz. Paulie likes to slip punches where Pac likes to go in and out. Like you said sometimes when Manny ****s he gets caught with shots. That's what I think Hatton has to do get inside and **** away. F@ck trying to stay outside and use space that's Pac's thing. Do what you know best. Besides if he trys to box I could see Pac busting him up with his speed, which I think looked a lot faster then Ricky's. Use that bigger body and punch he keeps talking about, he doesn't need to be cute. That's just not his game.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by SRcrit View Post
          Hatton did look good in the Malignaggi fight, but comparing his and Pac styles is like me comparing Ricky to David Diaz. Paulie likes to slip punches where Pac likes to go in and out. Like you said sometimes when Manny ****s he gets caught with shots. That's what I think Hatton has to do get inside and **** away. F@ck trying to stay outside and use space that's Pac's thing. Do what you know best. Besides if he trys to box I could see Pac busting him up with his speed, which I think looked a lot faster then Ricky's. Use that bigger body and punch he keeps talking about, he doesn't need to be cute. That's just not his game.
          I wasn't saying that Hatton was going to do a technical showing
          but what I meant is that he will use a lot more head movement,
          jabs, counters, defense & hooks. Pac is so easy to lead into a
          brawl and once that happens, Pac will get the worst of it. Pac
          is not a technical fighter. He's fast, evasive but his thing is to
          throw punches & if Hatton can get past his speedy punches on
          the outside Pac is done. All Hatton has to do is cut off the
          ring & close the gap.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            I see and hear a lot of confidence and determination in Hatton's voice for him to be taking Pacquiao lightly.
            Yes, Hatton does seem very confident and determined. But he seemed that way before the PBF fight also. I think he's putting to much on his bigger man theory? This is Pac's 3rd fight above 130 and usually it takes a couple fights to get comfortable at a new weight. What if Pac can take his shots and not get muscled around the ring then what does he do? I already said I don't think that boxing Pac will help him. I don't think its a easy fight for Pac but it will be easier if Hatton trys to box IMO

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            • #76
              Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              He's fast, evasive but his think is to
              throw punches & if Hatton can get past his speedy punches on
              the outside Pac is done. All Hatton has to do is cut off the
              ring & close the gap.
              That's how I see it also for Ricky to win. But like I said Hatton's defense is still suspect and Pac will land some shots while he's coming in. So he has to stay inside all night like he did to Tszyu. Whoever can take the punches is the one who will win.
              Last edited by KRITKL; 04-15-2009, 04:18 PM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                I mean Hatton has been fighting comfortably at 140 remaining undefeated
                there for most of his career. Why would he have problems making the
                weight if he's used to fighting in his comfort zone? He's the champ of
                the division. Maybe he was getting watered down because he was training
                harder than usual, don't you think so? Also have to take into consideration
                that maybe the Cuban South Paw is a strong fighter & maybe even tougher
                than Pac? There are a lot of scenerios in play right now but I see and hear
                a lot of confidence and determination in Hatton's voice for him to be taking
                Pacquiao lightly.
                Coming back down to 140 from 160 takes a toll and the body has to readjust which im sure they are working on but Hatton look tired in that first episode. Im wasnt saying he would have problems making weight I was just pointing out how tired he looked in the 247 episode when he was getting watered down.

                Do you think Hatton's stamina can hang with Pacquiaos especially after the punishment he'll be receiving trying to come forward. Roach has Pacquiao go 12 rounds but Pac wants to keep going at times. I remember Hatton asking Gramahn during the Mayweather fight, "How many more rounds", with that tired look on his face after the 8th round onslaught Mayweather gave him. Hatton slowed down after Mayweathers onslaught.

                The only real punishment I see Hatton doing to Pac is IF and again IF he gets opportunities to fight his inside game which he will get tagged numerous times trying to. For sure he aint gonna stay outside and expect to beat Pac that way and also Roach is gonna make damn certain that they take the inside game away from Hatton.

                And with Lara, we dont know if he is stronger then Pac but for sure he's a southpaw like Pac. No I aint saying Hatton is going to take Pac lightly cause I know he wants this just as bad but he has been bragging about being stronger and I quote this from Mayweather Sr from episode 1 of 24/7

                "The name of the game is hit and dont be hit, Ricky is like a bulldozer," "He never showed defense, everything was straight forward brute strength, thats not boxing". and the key quote: STRENGTH MEAN NOTHING IF YOU CANT FIND NOTHING TO HIT Quoted by Mayweather Sr. in 247

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by SRcrit View Post
                  Yes, Hatton does seem very confident and determined. But he seemed that way before the PBF fight also. I think he's putting to much on his bigger man theory? This is Pac's 3rd fight above 130 and usually it takes a couple fights to get comfortable at a new weight. What if Pac can take his shots and not get muscled around the ring then what does he do? I already said I don't think that boxing Pac will help him. I don't think its a easy fight for Pac but it will be easier if Hatton trys to box IMO
                  If Hatton comes to the ring with his A game and fights as good if
                  better than he did against Tszyu & Castillo, I say he beats down Manny.
                  Remember Floyd Sr is mostly a defensive trainer so Ricky offense will
                  be complimented with a tighter defense. Ricky's gonna work that head movement when moving in to Pac arsenal and that's why I think he has
                  them brusies from that Cuban South Paw because he is learning to get
                  around that left which will be Manny's punch to keep Hatton at bay.
                  Once Hatton is able to slip or get around that punch then Manny is
                  done.

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                  • #79
                    "The name of the game is hit and dont be hit, Ricky is like a bulldozer," "He never showed defense, everything was straight forward brute strength, thats not boxing". and the key quote: STRENGTH MEAN NOTHING IF YOU CANT FIND NOTHING TO HIT Quoted by Mayweather Sr. in 247[/QUOTE]

                    That quote really stuck out for me also.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      If Hatton comes to the ring with his A game and fights as good if
                      better than he did against Tszyu & Castillo, I say he beats down Manny.
                      Remember Floyd Sr is mostly a defensive trainer so Ricky offense will
                      be complimented with a tighter defense. Ricky's gonna work that head movement when moving in to Pac arsenal and that's why I think he has
                      them brusies from that Cuban South Paw because he is learning to get
                      around that left which will be Manny's punch to keep Hatton at bay.
                      Once Hatton is able to slip or get around that punch then Manny is
                      done.
                      So you think Rickys to strong for Pac..

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