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  • #81
    Originally posted by SRcrit View Post
    "The name of the game is hit and dont be hit, Ricky is like a bulldozer," "He never showed defense, everything was straight forward brute strength, thats not boxing". and the key quote: STRENGTH MEAN NOTHING IF YOU CANT FIND NOTHING TO HIT Quoted by Mayweather Sr. in 247
    That quote really stuck out for me also.[/QUOTE]

    Ive been dissecting this first episode of 24/7 since last Sat. 24/7 tells and shows alot and sometimes you have to catch specific tell tales. Like when Roach said "I told Manny that if he doesnt win against Delahoya, he doesnt have to pay me". After that I was like damn, thats sure confidence and thats why I made $700 that night.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by SRcrit View Post
      That's how I see it also for Ricky to win. But like I said Hatton's defense is still suspect and Pac will land some shots while he's coming in. So he has to stay inside all night like he did to Tszyu. Whoever can take the punches is the one who will win.
      Hatton will make it an inside fight because he will be forcing Pacquiao
      to fight and Pacquiao loves to engage and at the end of the day that
      is what I feel could be Pac's down fall, the fact that he is mostly an
      offensive brawler that uses speed and movement to overwhelm his opponents. It took Pacquiao 8 rounds to drop David Diaz and Diaz
      wasn't even fighting back that much. So if Pac couldn't drop a guy
      that wasn't putting up much of a fight then how can he drop a guy
      that will put up a much more competitive fight? He fought Diaz at 135
      & Hatton is at 140, I think Pacquiao power won't be enough to bother
      Hatton unless Ricky lets Pacquiao be the aggressor like Diaz and Oscar
      did but I'm sure that will not be the case.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
        That quote really stuck out for me also.
        Ive been dissecting this first episode of 24/7 since last Sat. 24/7 tells and shows alot and sometimes you have to catch specific tell tales. Like when Roach said "I told Manny that if he doesnt win against Delahoya, he doesnt have to pay me". After that I was like damn, thats sure confidence and thats why I made $700 that night.[/QUOTE]

        $700... Damn man, I only won $200 plus a case of beer.

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        • #84
          cur dog Mayweather

          Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          By you saying that Mayweather is not mentally sound shows that you know nothing about the sport or Floyd Mayweather Jr. Floyd is probably one of the smartest and conditioned technicians in the Sport of boxing. Before you try to talk think about what your saying.
          Cur dog mayweather, crys after fighting Gatti, then picks his fighters , then won't fight the big dogs, His method is TURN like a cur dog, roll his shoulder until his man is wore out and confused, and then turn it on when he has the advantage , sounds good but I don't think it will work against an elite fighter like Pacman . Ok dude who has Gayweather really fought???????????? Don't pull De la hoya, look what Gayweather did with Oscar vs Pacman and Oscar, all Oscar had to do, and I can hear a multitude of people begging under there breath "please throw the jab" if he had yore poor little cur dog gayweather would have lost !!!!!!!!! He ONLY won by one little point !!! Yore Curweather was whipped by Castillo, everyone that saw that KNOWS THAT , so who has he fought ?????????????? Zab was Shot, ,,,,,,,,NOBODY thats who !!!!!!!!!! So yore GAY Cur weather is saying NO to mosley heheheheheheeh and we know he won't fight Williams , cause he would have a mud hole stomped in his ass, lets see, he;s looking for somebody he knows he can beat up on but he won't TAKE ON ALL COMERS BOTTOM LINE, YEP HE 'S GOT MENTAL PROBLEMS AND SO DO YOU FOR FOLLOWING DA CUR DAWG !!!!!!!

          YORE GONNA EAT YER WORDS, SMILES

          ARCTICFALCONER

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          • #85
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            Hatton will make it an inside fight because he will be forcing Pacquiao
            to fight and Pacquiao loves to engage and at the end of the day that
            is what I feel could be Pac's down fall, the fact that he is mostly an
            offensive brawler that uses speed and movement to overwhelm his opponents. It took Pacquiao 8 rounds to drop David Diaz and Diaz
            wasn't even fighting back that much. So if Pac couldn't drop a guy
            that wasn't putting up much of a fight then how can he drop a guy
            that will put up a much more competitive fight? He fought Diaz at 135
            & Hatton is at 140, I think Pacquiao power won't be enough to bother
            Hatton unless Ricky lets Pacquiao be the aggressor like Diaz and Oscar
            did but I'm sure that will not be the case.
            Diaz has tighter WAY better defense then Hatton and was blocking most of Pacquiaos shots cause of his defense. Also how is Hatton gonna make it an inside fight unless he's holding Pacquiao cause for sure Pac will move out of the way and stay off the ropes, unlike Kotsya who stood in front of Hatton pretty much inviting him to lunge forward (I got that fight TIVOed and saw how Kotsya stood in front of Hatton and thought he could out punch him, which was the wrong way to beat Hatton). But oh well, we can go back and forth all day. All im saying is what I heard from 24/7 and seen from Hatton in previous fights. Im still predicting Pac to take this one and just out work Hatton in the end.
            Last edited by trainhard_187; 04-15-2009, 04:41 PM.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
              Coming back down to 140 from 160 takes a toll and the body has to readjust which im sure they are working on but Hatton look tired in that first episode. Im wasnt saying he would have problems making weight I was just pointing out how tired he looked in the 247 episode when he was getting watered down.

              Do you think Hatton's stamina can hang with Pacquiaos especially after the punishment he'll be receiving trying to come forward. Roach has Pacquiao go 12 rounds but Pac wants to keep going at times. I remember Hatton asking Gramahn during the Mayweather fight, "How many more rounds", with that tired look on his face after the 8th round onslaught Mayweather gave him. Hatton slowed down after Mayweathers onslaught.

              The only real punishment I see Hatton doing to Pac is IF and again IF he gets opportunities to fight his inside game which he will get tagged numerous times trying to. For sure he aint gonna stay outside and expect to beat Pac that way and also Roach is gonna make damn certain that they take the inside game away from Hatton.

              And with Lara, we dont know if he is stronger then Pac but for sure he's a southpaw like Pac. No I aint saying Hatton is going to take Pac lightly cause I know he wants this just as bad but he has been bragging about being stronger and I quote this from Mayweather Sr from episode 1 of 24/7

              "The name of the game is hit and dont be hit, Ricky is like a bulldozer," "He never showed defense, everything was straight forward brute strength, thats not boxing". and the key quote: STRENGTH MEAN NOTHING IF YOU CANT FIND NOTHING TO HIT Quoted by Mayweather Sr. in 247
              True but also Floyd Sr said something in the 1st episode
              of 24/7 about making sure Hatton shows a lil more finesse instead of just being a straight come forward brawler. You can't really compare the Hatton that trained with Billy Graham to the Hatton training with Floyd Sr because we really don't know who stamina would out do who's the night of the fight because one good punch could change everything. I do know Pac is in great physical condition & that I give him credit for
              but I think what this fight is going to boil down to is who has the most power because Hatton is going to be on Pac & Pac is going to have to ****, he won't have too much room to dictate the pace of the fight.
              Last edited by GRUSTLER; 04-15-2009, 04:44 PM.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                Hatton will make it an inside fight because he will be forcing Pacquiao
                to fight and Pacquiao loves to engage and at the end of the day that
                is what I feel could be Pac's down fall, the fact that he is mostly an
                offensive brawler that uses speed and movement to overwhelm his opponents. It took Pacquiao 8 rounds to drop David Diaz and Diaz
                wasn't even fighting back that much. So if Pac couldn't drop a guy
                that wasn't putting up much of a fight then how can he drop a guy
                that will put up a much more competitive fight? He fought Diaz at 135
                & Hatton is at 140, I think Pacquiao power won't be enough to bother
                Hatton unless Ricky lets Pacquiao be the aggressor like Diaz and Oscar
                did but I'm sure that will not be the case.
                I agree with all your points. But don't forget Diaz was his 1st fight above 130 and this will be his third and it takes a couple fights to grow into a new weight. I think Pac will connect enough to give Hatton problems.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
                  Diaz has tighter WAY better defense then Hatton and was blocking most of Pacquiaos shots cause of his defense. Also how is Hatton gonna make it an inside fight unless he's holding Pacquiao cause for sure Pac will move out of the way and stay off the ropes, unlike Kotsya who stood in front of Hatton pretty much inviting him to lunge forward (I got that fight TIVOed and saw how Kotsya stood in front of Hatton and thought he could out punch him, which was the wrong way to beat Hatton). But oh well, we can go back and forth all day. All im saying is what I heard from 24/7 and seen from Hatton in previous fights. Im still predicting Pac to take this one and just out work Hatton in the end.
                  But we can agree that Hatton is a stronger more durable fighter than Diaz
                  right?

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by arcticfalconer View Post
                    Cur dog mayweather, crys after fighting Gatti, then picks his fighters , then won't fight the big dogs, His method is TURN like a cur dog, roll his shoulder until his man is wore out and confused, and then turn it on when he has the advantage , sounds good but I don't think it will work against an elite fighter like Pacman . Ok dude who has Gayweather really fought???????????? Don't pull De la hoya, look what Gayweather did with Oscar vs Pacman and Oscar, all Oscar had to do, and I can hear a multitude of people begging under there breath "please throw the jab" if he had yore poor little cur dog gayweather would have lost !!!!!!!!! He ONLY won by one little point !!! Yore Curweather was whipped by Castillo, everyone that saw that KNOWS THAT , so who has he fought ?????????????? Zab was Shot, ,,,,,,,,NOBODY thats who !!!!!!!!!! So yore GAY Cur weather is saying NO to mosley heheheheheheeh and we know he won't fight Williams , cause he would have a mud hole stomped in his ass, lets see, he;s looking for somebody he knows he can beat up on but he won't TAKE ON ALL COMERS BOTTOM LINE, YEP HE 'S GOT MENTAL PROBLEMS AND SO DO YOU FOR FOLLOWING DA CUR DAWG !!!!!!!

                    YORE GONNA EAT YER WORDS, SMILES

                    ARCTICFALCONER
                    Ok man, when the Pacquiao/Mayweather fight happens we will meet
                    again and see who knows what, cool?

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by SRcrit View Post
                      I agree with all your points. But don't forget Diaz was his 1st fight above 130 and this will be his third and it takes a couple fights to grow into a new weight. I think Pac will connect enough to give Hatton problems.
                      Correction, actually it took Manny Pacquiao 9 rounds to drop David Diaz.

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