David Haye earned his Heavyweight title shot like RJJr earned his

[joseph5620]

Despite the fact you're biased and ignored the fact that everyone knows Ruiz is an ass of clown heavyweight and was also Ko'd by Tuas pinky finger.

Ruiz also beat, Kirk Johnson, Hasim Rahman, and Fres Oquendo. All top heavyweights at the time.He knocked down and hurt Evander Holyfield with his sneaky right hand. Although Holyfield was past his prime, not a lot of fighters can do that to him even today. Valuev didn't. Ruiz also had a very frustrating and difficult style that a lof of heavyweights could not find an answer. So don't try to pretend that Jones beat a heavyweight that every heavyweight could beat. What Jones accomplished in that fight was big no matter how you look at it.

[HeartAttack]

Ruiz is that bum who clinches more then Hatton does. Ruiz is that bum who it took Tua less then 20 seconds to KO. Tua gave Ruiz no chance to hold and beat the **** out of him

ok..................... your point?

[ACHlLLES]

[B]Ruiz also beat, Kirk Johnson, Hasim Rahman, and Fres Oquendo.

Did he clinch his way to victory, you know the kind of style he is known to have. If so, I'd count those wins as losses. That is just how I see things, because boxing is a sport where you're suppose to punch your opponent not excessively hold.

[joseph5620]

Did he clinch his way to victory, you know the kind of style he is known to have. If so, I'd count those wins as losses. That is just how I see things, because boxing is a sport where you're suppose to punch your opponent not excessively hold.

He won all those fights and yes it was ugly. You can spin it however you want to, but his tactics didn't work with Jones.

[STILL DETOX]

Did he clinch his way to victory, you know the kind of style he is known to have. If so, I'd count those wins as losses. That is just how I see things, because boxing is a sport where you're suppose to punch your opponent not excessively hold.

ur sig is hilarious