David Haye earned his Heavyweight title shot like RJJr earned his

[loui_ludwig]

Objection.

RJ went from middleweight to light heavy, winning titles, and becoming pound for pound fighter.

David Gaye earn it by opening his mouth too much.

[Dan...]

I know, but as a roy fan. Do you think if Haye wins against Wlad, that it kind of hurts Roys win over Ruiz or not at all? Roy did move up more in weight, but Ruiz isn't that great compared to Wlad. Despite Wlad having chin problems, he has still been a dominate champ compared to the likes of someone like Ruiz.

How would Haye winning hurt Roy's win over Ruiz? Neither fighter is involved in this fight. A win over Wladimir means a lot more than a win over Ruiz. Is that what you were looking for?

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[THE REED]

Despite the fact you're biased and ignored the fact that everyone knows Ruiz is an ass of clown heavyweight and was also Ko'd by Tuas pinky finger.

You can't really compare the two... cruiserweight champions have gone up to become hw champions... Haye would be comparing his accomplishment more with Evander then with Roy.

Roys accomplishment isn't just a big deal because he beat John Ruiz, but because he came from Middleweight to do so...

Still waiting for how this is a bias post....

[mickey malone]

Jeeees, there's some bollocks on this thread.. CREDIT to both fighters! The reason their fighting one another is cos virtually everyone else prefers the PIE FACTORY!

[Cortezsucks]

Haye is shooting for the best guy at HW which is very commendable.

[HeartAttack]

This is more reminiscent of Holyfield then Roy. But lets get a few things right. Haye isn't fighting for the heavyweight title. He is merely fighting the top heavyweight contender to an empty crown. IF Haye wins, and he fights Vitali next, then that trully would be for the heavyweight crown (with the number 1 and 2 ranked heavyweight squaring off). As for Roy's heavyweight forray; it was an impressive win over what was then a top 5 heavyweight. However, that too wasn't a real title fight. Lennox was the champion, Ruiz just held a trinket. Great fight for Roy, not for the title though. Haye unlike either Klitschko, was a linear champion, that is how he has earned a shot at the top contender in the weightclass above his.

[ACHlLLES]

Lennox was the champion, Ruiz just held a trinket. Great fight for Roy, not for the title though. Haye unlike either Klitschko, was a linear champion, that is how he has earned a shot at the top contender in the weightclass above his.

Ruiz is that bum who clinches more then Hatton does. Ruiz is that bum who it took Tua less then 20 seconds to KO. Tua gave Ruiz no chance to hold and beat the **** out of him

[joseph5620]

both were unified champs before going up to capture heavyweight title so everybody suck it :wank:

Absolutely. I don't understand why anybody would question that. Besides that, this is a fight the division needs.

[PAC-BOY]

both were unified champs before going up to capture heavyweight title so everybody suck it :wank:

Got a point