Overated POPKINS - How is he a p4p great?

[ßringer]

Hopkins wouldn't of been able to do what he did to those "smaller" guys if they were the same size.

And Oscar wouldn't have even lasted with his "smaller men" if they were the same size.

[MR ITALIAN]

So what if Oscar quit, boxers do it all the damn time. Did I find it funny? Yea, in a way I did. I know what you're trying to do, it won't work son.

I did not mention DLH in that quote...Dont avoid the question LOL Im not trying to do anything seriously..Reread the quote It was just a statement you took the wrong way...

[RightCross94]

How many of those are Clinton Mitchell/Calzaghe Quality Fighters?

Clinton Mitchell was Bernards first pro fight, pretty much irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. It's like holding Salvador Sanchez's early pro loss against him, or Alexis Arguello's early losses against him. Records and losses (especially early ones) mean **** if you still achieve great things like Bernard and those guys did.

Oscar was an excellent fighter, and if he did not make some ****** mistakes in his career (giving away the Tito fight mainly) he would be viewed much more favourably. But the bottom line is Oscar lost all his career defining fights, while Hopkins didn't.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Joe Calzaghe is pretty underated. You obviously don't like him, that's fine. But he's a pretty damn good fighter. Personally, I hate his awkward style and personality. But that doesn't cloud my opinion on his ability.

And again, Clinton Mitchell was Hopkins' pro debut, fresh out of prison. Do you have any idea how little experience you get by boxing in prison?

I've never denied Calzaghe was great in the division he spent the majority of his career in. I never said Hopkins is a bad fighter either, people just overhype some of his victories like they are the greatest ever.

Doesn't matter, a loss is a loss. Juan Manuel Marquez lost his debut too, but it still counts. If it were to of been DLH, I would of said the same.

[Mr. Fantastic]

And Oscar wouldn't have even lasted with his "smaller men" if they were the same size.

Prime Oscar yea. We saw what happens to an old one though.

[WetSexyLlamaPR]

Coming from a CottoStan lol.

How am I a Cotto stan? Because of the PR next to my name? Provide evidence or piss off Mr. Racist. I love how you threw that red herring and didn't even attempt to disseminate my post. What a troll. I'm done with this thread.

[supRa]

Hopkins shouldn't get credit for beating smaller fighters due to his age. Look what happened when he faced a great boxer his size, he lost.

dosent deserve credit?!??1?!!?!?!!!!!
how can u say that?!!?!?
i mean look at ur sig... if oscar would of beat floyd... floyd is smaller...
look what he tried 2 do with manny.... oscar wanted to get credit buy beating a smaller guy...
my assssssssss
same ****..
hopkins is greatest of all time!!!!!!

[Verstyle]

Who wants me to turn the threadstarter red? The first 5 ppl that say do it and I will.

[MR ITALIAN]

Who wants me to turn the threadstarter red? The first 5 ppl that say do it and I will.

My man lol lol lol .....you pop up like JASON lol

[supRa]

Who wants me to turn the threadstarter red? The first 5 ppl that say do it and I will.

get em!!!!!