Overated POPKINS - How is he a p4p great?

[Mr. Fantastic]

Hagler beat ATG fighters who where smaller..

but who called him gods greatest gift?

Not me.


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[MR ITALIAN]

TY lol


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Thats TWO VERY CLOSE UD's, AND TWO VERY CLOSE SPLIT DECISIONS....WHO has ever STOPPED HIM and HAS he ever Quit? You not giving that man credit for tight losses to top guys and split decisions is out right crazy man ... Who do you think is the best fighter of HIS era?? LAST TWO DECADES TO DATE

[Mr. Fantastic]

and Oscars is 39-6

How many of those are Clinton Mitchell/Calzaghe Quality Fighters?

[ßringer]

I know it kinda sounds racist but it's not bro, trust me. That's why I said, not trying to be racist. Is it hard to understand?

Kelly is hype bro, I've been saying it all along. If 160 had the power like 122,135,147 .........Pavlik wouldn't exist.

160 has never been a stellar division though. I don't think you can punish Kelly for that.

160 has always pretty much been a stale division, with 1 great fighter dominating it at a time. (Monzon, Hagler, Hopkins, etc...)

[Mr. Fantastic]

Oscar is 39-6.

He's had 10 less pro fights than Bernard has, and has 1 more defeat than Bernard does. Against guys who were smaller than him (Shane, Floyd, Manny).

Say what you want about Hopkins fighting "smaller men". But damn, at least he beats them.

Hopkins wouldn't of been able to do what he did to those "smaller" guys if they were the same size.

[WetSexyLlamaPR]

Hell even Calzaghe HAD TO GO UP IN WEIGHT!

Oscar made Tito fight him at 147 knowing Tito had been having weight problems for a long time and had already fought at 154. Oscar lost. Oscar made Mayweather fight at 154. Oscar lost. Oscar made Bernard Hopkins fight him at 156. Oscar lost.

You accuse Hopkins of setting up fights at weights where it would suit him but at least B-Hop won those fights not to mention at an advanced age, ancient by boxing standards. Oscar made Tito, Mayweather and B-Hop fight him at weights that suited him at a much younger age than B-Hop and still managed to lose.

Quit being such a nut hugger.

[ßringer]

How many of those are Clinton Mitchell/Calzaghe Quality Fighters?

Joe Calzaghe is pretty underated. You obviously don't like him, that's fine. But he's a pretty damn good fighter. Personally, I hate his awkward style and personality. But that doesn't cloud my opinion on his ability.

And again, Clinton Mitchell was Hopkins' pro debut, fresh out of prison. Do you have any idea how little experience you get by boxing in prison?

[Mr. Fantastic]

Thats TWO VERY CLOSE UD's, AND TWO VERY CLOSE SPLIT DECISIONS....WHO has ever STOPPED HIM and HAS he ever Quit? You not giving that man credit for tight losses to top guys and split decisions is out right crazy man ... Who do you think is the best fighter of HIS era?? LAST TWO DECADES TO DATE

So what if Oscar quit, boxers do it all the damn time. Did I find it funny? Yea, in a way I did. I know what you're trying to do, it won't work son.

[dde91]

How many of those are Clinton Mitchell/Calzaghe Quality Fighters?

That Mitchell fight shouldn't even be mentioned. WTF

[Mr. Fantastic]

Oscar made Tito fight him at 147 knowing Tito had been having weight problems for a long time and had already fought at 154. Oscar lost. Oscar made Mayweather fight at 154. Oscar lost. Oscar made Bernard Hopkins fight him at 156. Oscar lost.

You accuse Hopkins of setting up fights at weights where it would suit him but at least B-Hop won those fights not to mention at an advanced age, ancient by boxing standards. Oscar made Tito, Mayweather and B-Hop fight him at weights that suited him at a much younger age than B-Hop and still managed to lose.

Quit being such a nut hugger.

Coming from a CottoStan lol.