Whoever Throws The Most Punches Wins

[Technical_Skill]

This thread is terrible... compubox had them both landing 23% of their punches, Williams more than doubled Wright's output (which means he landed more than double the punches too), and Wright is clearly not the harder puncher.

I have no idea how you gave 4 rounds to Wright.

Rounds 1 and 4 (or 5, can't remember which one it was... the one Lederman gave to Wright) were all I could give to Wright, and he's my favorite fighter.

UGH, this fight was really painful to watch.

Compubox is not infallible, Jeezzzz, that system is known to count punches that dont land, and again, one of the rounds I gave wright was very close, so im happy with 9-3 as a score. But the point is, williams was getting credit for landing punches early on which just did not land. Later on in the fight, he landed ALOT more clean punches, but I think early on winky was picking off alot of his shots.

[ACHlLLES]

I gave Wright round 1 convincingly.

That is the only round I gave wright, and I was rooting for Wright but Williams gain my respect last night so I wish him luck. And I don't care if you ppl call me bandwagon jumper, the dude fought amazingly last night and gained my respect and is making me a fan

[Fox McCloud]

I gave Wright round 1 convincingly.

The other 2 rounds I gave him where the consecutive rounds where Williams slowed down, and took the rounds off for the most part. I think they were rounds 4 and 5 but I'm not positive.

Paul was just basically ****ing around those 2 rounds though. He was still throwing, but his output wasn't what it was just a few rounds earlier, and his connect percentage in those rounds was piss poor.

I was really excited after round 1, worried after round 2 and had lost all hope for a Wright win after round 3.

That fight was so obviously over so early... Wright couldn't keep up, he couldn't KO Williams and Williams was obviously not going to slow down.

That said, I thought Wright looked ****ing terrific after 21 months off... man, he looked sharp. Honestly, he can still make some noise at 160 if he is not fighting a volume puncher (which has always been his worst style matchup anyway), because his timing and punches were both really good last night.

[-Antonio-]

I think it's arguable that Williams won 11 rounds.

[Fox McCloud]

Compubox is not infallible, Jeezzzz, that system is known to count punches that dont land, and again, one of the rounds I gave wright was very close, so im happy with 9-3 as a score. But the point is, williams was getting credit for landing punches early on which just did not land. Later on in the fight, he landed ALOT more clean punches, but I think early on winky was picking off alot of his shots.

Wtf ever... in a fight where compubox has percentages even (I mean, seriously, how far can they be off? Enough to make up for the punch output differential? HELL NO), and Williams more than doubles Wright's output... I see no way that you can make arguments like... Williams was winning just because he threw. Make no mistake, he was landing, and he was actually landing significant shots too.

[Technical_Skill]

It's sad, but true.

As I said, Williams clearly won it, there's no dis*****g that.

But going into the 7th round I had it 3-3. Wright won at least 3 of those early rounds in my eyes.

It's a shame that judges don't follow their own criteria for judging a fight, defense is tossed out the window, ring generalship is tossed out the window, and effective aggression is tossed out the window as well.

He who throws the most punches, always wins the round.

Call me crazy but if fighter A throws 100 punches and lands 25 of them, but fighter B throws 50 punches and lands 35, I'd rather be the guy who threw less and connected more. You're conserving your energy by not throwing that much, you're dishing out more damage by being more accurate, and you're exposing the other guy as a glorified windmill with no talent.

I also had it close in the 1st 7 rounds. All rounds including 7 onwards went to williams. As i said before, you get these guys who cant spot what lands and what doesnt land, im telling you, i saw winky landing hooks to the body, hooks to the head and lampley wasnt calling them.

Williams clearly won, but its this kind of **** which costs fighters fights, if you try to be economical you likely get screwed.

Ask yourself, who in boxing right now can win decision against paul williams?

Is that because he is such a talented fighter, or because he throws so many punches you know the judges will give round regardless of whether they land?

[-Antonio-]

Compubox is not infallible, Jeezzzz, that system is known to count punches that dont land, and again, one of the rounds I gave wright was very close, so im happy with 9-3 as a score. But the point is, williams was getting credit for landing punches early on which just did not land. Later on in the fight, he landed ALOT more clean punches, but I think early on winky was picking off alot of his shots.

I dont need Compubox. I saw Williams landing plenty of punches through or over Winky's guard. Even a partially landed punch is better than one that is not thrown.

I also think you are neglecting the fact that Williams completely controlled the fight. Ring generalship counts too.

[ILLuminato]

If it's about accuracy then Jones beat Calzaghe (58% of power punches vs Calzaghe's 26% power punches landed) [[Re-search it if you don't believe me]]

Calzaghe threw more and landed that straight left that cut Jones but Jones blocked a whole lot. Still, Calzaghe won due to his workrate and Jones' "inactivity".

You tell me who looked like the winner of that fight.

I had Williams winning every round. You tell me who looked like the winner last night. How you gave Winky more than 2 rounds is absurd.

[Technical_Skill]

Wtf ever... in a fight where compubox has percentages even (I mean, seriously, how far can they be off? Enough to make up for the punch output differential? HELL NO), and Williams more than doubles Wright's output... I see no way that you can make arguments like... Williams was winning just because he threw. Make no mistake, he was landing, and he was actually landing significant shots too.

Hold on, Williams in the fight as a whole landed more punches than Wright and clearly won this fight.

Im talking about Specific rounds where he was hitting gloves, and wright was landing clean hooks, hooks to the body, jabs. No way was that fight a shutout, wright had a case in a few of the early rounds I think.

[ILLuminato]

I also had it close in the 1st 7 rounds. All rounds including 7 onwards went to williams. As i said before, you get these guys who cant spot what lands and what doesnt land, im telling you, i saw winky landing hooks to the body, hooks to the head and lampley wasnt calling them.

Williams clearly won, but its this kind of **** which costs fighters fights, if you try to be economical you likely get screwed.

Ask yourself, who in boxing right now can win decision against paul williams?

Is that because he is such a talented fighter, or because he throws so many punches you know the judges will give round regardless of whether they land?

Carlos Quintana won a decsion against him.

The guy who throws 100 punches deserves to win the round far more than the guy who throws 30. Maybe if the inactive fighter was effective enough with his counters they wouldn't throw so many punches.

Winky barely won 1 round dude. Give up. Even the punches he landed weren't effective.