Whoever Throws The Most Punches Wins

[Technical_Skill]

Uh, last night was not an example of that. I had it 9-3 for Williams. Not a shut out but that's the worst loss I've seen Winky. I mean, even winky admitted after the fight that he couldn't dodge his punches because they were coming from all directions. Give Williams credit, he clearly won. Sure, Winky landed some nice shots of his own, but they were to far and in between.

1) Read the opening post where i said williams clearly won

2) I gave another round to winky but im happy with 9-3 as a score.

3) The point is, Idiot judges are still giving rounds to guy regardless of whether he is landing its getting crazy now. one of the idiots had it a shutout i think, lederman had winky winning 1 round, i just dont buy that ****, the 1st round was a clear example of winky picking off alot off shots to land his own, he landed the cleaner shots, but they still gave it to williams.

[The_Visitation]

Yeah, that was what the commentators was discussing .. quan****** of puches or the quality of punches.. For me the quality of punches is what matters the most.. Any fool can throw punches is bunches but to hit the other one clean and perfect and not get hit yourself is ''the sweet science'' in my book

The trouble with that is that only the fighters can really judge the 'quality' of a punch; judges can have some idea from seeing them but it's a lot more subjective than just counting. If the punches have so much 'quality', they ought to be doing enough damage to slow the other guy down and allow the fighter throwing them to take control of the fight. If they aren't doing that you are judging on 'pretty', not 'effective', particularly if the guy throwing more punches is doing that.

[Chunk..]

Guys who look busy usually nick rounds without landing jack, they win rounds because they're aggressive and throw their arms about just to look like they're busy and land 1 in 20 punches in a flurry.

CompuBox is the biggest load of **** as well.

[ßringer]

I had it 117-111 for Williams.

Williams clearly earned the decision, but your point is well taken.

Judges only care about workrates these days it seems. They favor number of punches thrown over ring generalship, defensive, and clean, effective aggression.

[Technical_Skill]

Guys who look busy usually nick rounds without landing jack, they win rounds because they're aggressive and throw their arms about just to look like they're busy and land 1 in 20 punches in a flurry.

CompuBox is the biggest load of **** as well.

Its bollocks, again to me williams CLEARLY won, im not dis*****g that, but some of the early rounds went to winky imo, I cant score for gloves punches, and HBO knew those punches werent landing because they spent the beggining of the fight arguing about why they were going to give rounds to williams based on the amount he threw.

As for Lederman.....the worst scorer in boxing hands down.

[Technical_Skill]

I had it 117-111 for Williams.

Williams clearly earned the decision, but your point is well taken.

Judges only care about workrates these days it seems. They favor number of punches thrown over ring generalship, defensive, and clean, effective aggression.

This is what I said to run w/ knives last night concerning my fight prediction.

I gonna guess and go for Williams UD, he punches alot and judges are dumb as f.uck in this day and age, these days its like whoever throws the most punches wins.

[ßringer]

This is what I said to run w/ knives last night concerning my fight prediction.

It's sad, but true.

As I said, Williams clearly won it, there's no dis*****g that.

But going into the 7th round I had it 3-3. Wright won at least 3 of those early rounds in my eyes.

It's a shame that judges don't follow their own criteria for judging a fight, defense is tossed out the window, ring generalship is tossed out the window, and effective aggression is tossed out the window as well.

He who throws the most punches, always wins the round.

Call me crazy but if fighter A throws 100 punches and lands 25 of them, but fighter B throws 50 punches and lands 35, I'd rather be the guy who threw less and connected more. You're conserving your energy by not throwing that much, you're dishing out more damage by being more accurate, and you're exposing the other guy as a glorified windmill with no talent.

[Fox McCloud]

This thread is terrible... compubox had them both landing 23% of their punches, Williams more than doubled Wright's output (which means he landed more than double the punches too), and Wright is clearly not the harder puncher.

I have no idea how you gave 4 rounds to Wright.

Rounds 1 and 4 (or 5, can't remember which one it was... the one Lederman gave to Wright) were all I could give to Wright, and he's my favorite fighter.

UGH, this fight was really painful to watch.

[pigdestroyer]

Welcome to the sport of boxing, no longer about economy, accuracy and defense, its about whoever throws the most.

Once again last night the Judges and idiot tv commentators gives rounds to a guy for throw loads of punches regardless of whether they land.

I had williams clearly winning the fight, but not by shutout, nowhere near, early on Winky caught alot of williams shots on his gloves and was landing jabs, and hooks, early on I thought winky was landing the cleaner shots. Some of you may disagree but i had it 116-112 to williams, I just cant give rounds to guy who lands about 4/80 punches, then gets hits with clean jabs and hooks.

This is what the sport is becoming, it doesn't reward accuracy anymore, any **** can go in and throw more shots than other guy, miss them, and get a chance at the decision.

F.uck Lederman and f.uck this 'busier guy' ****, its about LANDED PUNCHES, not punches getting caught by gloves and arms.

busy = effort.
sometimes i think he should just give a point to some of the guys because they train hard. lederman scores aren't always correct... but he's the closest mind to a real judge as you get... and let alone hear the opinion of.

[ßringer]

This thread is terrible... compubox had them both landing 23% of their punches, Williams more than doubled Wright's output (which means he landed more than double the punches too), and Wright is clearly not the harder puncher.

I have no idea how you gave 4 rounds to Wright.

Rounds 1 and 4 (or 5, can't remember which one it was... the one Lederman gave to Wright) were all I could give to Wright, and he's my favorite fighter.

UGH, this fight was really painful to watch.

I gave Wright round 1 convincingly.

The other 2 rounds I gave him where the consecutive rounds where Williams slowed down, and took the rounds off for the most part. I think they were rounds 4 and 5 but I'm not positive.

Paul was just basically ****ing around those 2 rounds though. He was still throwing, but his output wasn't what it was just a few rounds earlier, and his connect percentage in those rounds was piss poor.