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  • Originally posted by Saloth Sar View Post
    You offer a great logical post.
    Here is the problem.

    If Marquez fights Mayweather at Welterweight.

    Do you think he would be the first fighter to ever jump from lightweight to welterweight to fight a great fighter?

    The answer is no.

    So with that being said, I want you to understand that Marquez is in the same position allot of fighters in boxing history have been in.

    Fighting Out of their comfort zone to achieve a truly great opportunity.

    Take Cotto & Mosely for example.
    Both of them were given the chance to fight Floyd in their careers and both turn it down. Because the circumstances were not right for them.

    Well look what that decision has gotten them today.
    Now they are both only dream that they can get another oppurtunity to fight floyd.

    The point is this:
    Ready or Not, Great Athletes always take advantage of the moment.
    Thats what makes them great, the ability to do great things when they are not expected or ready 2.


    I know it might seem like too much risk for JMM to fight Floyd at WW..
    but guess what, Thats makes the win so much better if he wins.
    If JMM accepts the fight at WW....All the pressure would be on floyd to not just win but dominate. and people would only expect JMM to be somewhat competitive. Where is the glory for Floyd in this match up???


    So my point is that understand boxing history and understand that instead of making excuses for JMM, we should encourage him to truly take on a great challenge to become possible the first person to ever beat Floyd and if he does become possibly the greatest fighter his country has ever produce.
    It is on jmm shoulders to make that decision on taking floyd at welter

    but from a fan perspective I want to see floyd match up in the most competitive fight available to him. If he is not interested in fighting welters like shane or cotto but instead face a lightweight in jmm; the only way this fight is competitive or stand a chance of being competitive is if they meet at 140.

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    • Originally posted by GetSumBrah View Post
      Question for everyone,

      who's the best fighter floyd jr. has ever beaten?
      Best fighter? Oscar.

      Best performance? Corrales.

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      • Originally posted by Lineal Champ View Post
        WOW you sure think highly of Floyd.... LMAO @ Possibly the greatest fighter from Mexico... that's some funny ****
        Name one fighter that a fighter from Mexico beat that is greater than a undefeated Somewhat in his prime Floyd Mayweather?

        dont forget i said possibly.

        But it is sad that out of everything I wrote in that post you only find basically a sidenote of the post to reply too, instead of relying to the whole post...
        which is probably not surprising too me.

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        • Originally posted by QUISQUEYA View Post
          Exactly. Floyd is who he is. He will be the exact same fighter at 147 as at 140. JMM called him out and knows who and what he called out.

          Now, nobody is telling JMM to blow up and look like Trinidad or Winky trying to balloon up to a heavier weight.

          When Floyd fought Oscar at 154, PBF said "eff it" and just came it looking great and ripped under weight.

          JMM should do the same.


          Disagree here. Because even if he weighs in at 142, he rehydrates to 147 probably. JMM went to 140 overnight against Diaz and his speed seemed slower. 7 pounds more he'd be even more sluggish and not as fast. Pacquiao retains pretty much all of his speed going up. Marquez not so much

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          • Originally posted by QUISQUEYA View Post
            If I was Juan Manuel Marquez, i would go to welterweight... and BUST FLOYD'S ASS.

            I'm tired of all these boxers talking **** and then coming with excuses. For THREE YEARS, Ricky Hatton kept saying that he was too big and strong for Floyd. And then immediately after the fight, he says 'Oh, wee me, I'm not a welterweight'.

            STFU and go fight. Please. Do it the old-school way. Go from 126 to 135 to 147. All the junior this and super that is annoying. I'm so over it.

            And, Floyd... move your scrawny ass back down to 140. Yeah, i know. It's not a glamour division. Whatever. STFU. As you once said " The fighter makes the belt. The belt doesn't make the fighter".
            You write like horus...
            are you his alt?
            because the only person i seen write like this on this site is horus

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            • Originally posted by Saloth Sar View Post
              You write like horus...
              are you his alt?
              because the only person i seen write like this on this site is horus
              He's not and he writes nothing like Horus.

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              • Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
                Disagree here. Because even if he weighs in at 142, he rehydrates to 147 probably. JMM went to 140 overnight against Diaz and his speed seemed slower. 7 pounds more he'd be even more sluggish and not as fast. Pacquiao retains pretty much all of his speed going up. Marquez not so much
                I want to punch you in the throat so hard right now.

                THEN DON'T GAIN THE WEIGHT!! Go to training camp and get in the very best possible strength/speed/timing shape for yourself. And whatever you weigh, you weigh. 138, 139.5 141.7834, 146.999999. Whatever.

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                • Originally posted by Saloth Sar View Post
                  You write like horus...
                  are you his alt?
                  because the only person i seen write like this on this site is horus
                  I am not Horus.

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                  • Originally posted by Saloth Sar View Post
                    Name one fighter that a fighter from Mexico beat that is greater than a undefeated Somewhat in his prime Floyd Mayweather?

                    dont forget i said possibly.

                    But it is sad that out of everything I wrote in that post you only find basically a sidenote of the post to reply too, instead of relying to the whole post...
                    which is probably not surprising too me.
                    You are something.... lol
                    YOU said that IF JMM beats Fmjr @ 147 he might POSSIBLY be the best fighter out of HIS country. So how do you not see your own BIAS now? IF JMM beat Floyd wouldn't he be the best fighter ever like Floyd claims to be, not only from MEXICO.

                    To answer your BS question about a fighter blah,blah. Chavez beat Taylor and Taylor >>>> Mayweather Prime for Prime.

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                    • Originally posted by warp1432 View Post
                      He's not and he writes nothing like Horus.
                      i said that because i see him writing in the big color fonts... and i know that horus is know for doing that...

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