Does big Paul Williams crack your top 10 pound 4 pound list now??

[Bhopreign]

Who cares???

Winky was man enough to admit he lost fair and square....I think NSB should man up as well.

I like Paul nothing against him, but it just has always bugged me when a guy is so much taller than his opponent. I've always asked the question would Oscar be HOF material had he started at 147, probably not, Im for same day weigh ins, guess I live in the past.

[ИATAS]

Fine. Top 10 p4p boxers don't lose to guys that aren't even top 5 in their division. And who has Quintana really beat besides Williams anyway? Yes, he avenged the loss, but the second fight looked much more flukish than the first.

To me, it's about how he won the rematch and how he's looked since. A loss can be a defining moment in a fighters career, often times when you look back at a great fighters career, there can be a point, either a loss, or a really tough fight that makes them into a better fighter.

I could be wrong, but based on what I've seen since that Quintana fight, Williams has improved a lot. Compare Williams in their first fight to how he looks inside the ring now. He's much more evolved imo. He has more head movement, he comes from all angles, he commits to his punches more, he's just better.

You're right, their first fight may not have been a fluke, but it could have been a big lesson for Williams, maybe he needed that to make him better.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

How many successful title defenses has Paul had?

[IMDAZED]

So now we would've preferred if Williams had fought a mandatory over moving up to fight Winky? The hate on here is quite strong for a likeable fighter.

[Burner]

Joe Calzaghe had 23.


And they mean shyt.


Paul is a good fighter give the man his props for Christ sakes.

[ИATAS]

I like Paul nothing against him, but it just has always bugged me when a guy is so much taller than his opponent. I've always asked the question would Oscar be HOF material had he started at 147, probably not, Im for same day weigh ins, guess I live in the past.

I personally don't care much about height, and especially with Paul Williams who DOES NOT USE his height advantage in fights, he fights low and he fights inside or very close. I may agree with you more if he stood tall and just jabbed his way to victories like Wlad Klitshko or someone like that, but Williams brawls with his opponents, thus giving up his height & reach advantage for the most part.

[ИATAS]

So now we would've preferred if Williams had fought a mandatory over moving up to fight Winky? The hate on here is quite strong for a likeable fighter.

Very good point, it's like Clottey should get criticized for fighting Cotto instead of whoever no named fighter the IBF is demanding him fight instead.

[Bhopreign]

I personally don't care much about height, and especially with Paul Williams who DOES NOT USE his height advantage in fights, he fights low and he fights inside or very close. I may agree with you more if he stood tall and just jabbed his way to victories like Wlad Klitshko or someone like that, but Williams brawls with his opponents, thus giving up his height & reach advantage for the most part.

He does use his height, he just ends up on the inside alot, but he does use his height and tonight he used it better than he has in the past. He would be a better fighter if he used his legs more.

[Jim Jeffries]

To me, it's about how he won the rematch and how he's looked since. A loss can be a defining moment in a fighters career, often times when you look back at a great fighters career, there can be a point, either a loss, or a really tough fight that makes them into a better fighter.

I could be wrong, but based on what I've seen since that Quintana fight, Williams has improved a lot. Compare Williams in their first fight to how he looks inside the ring now. He's much more evolved imo. He has more head movement, he comes from all angles, he commits to his punches more, he's just better.

You're right, their first fight may not have been a fluke, but it could have been a big lesson for Williams, maybe he needed that to make him better.

I think Williams has potential to be a future HOFer and I think the Quintana loss was a wake up call for him, probably made him into a better fighter. I guess guys like Kellerman having him dominating 4 divisions before tonight kind of turn me off a bit. Plus I'd like to see him fight a guy that's somewhere close to his height, in his prime, and has some pop. Pavlik is looking much less of a mismatch than I originally thought, that's the best fight that I can see out there for him, and maybe after tonight the demand will be higher for it.

LOL at Burner putting me on his ignore list though, poor guy.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Joe Calzaghe had 23.


And they mean shyt.


Paul is a good fighter give the man his props for Christ sakes.

They mean **** but yet he''s one of the ATGs AT his weight? Okkkkk!


Dude its an OK win, if Winky was active I would of been like oooo **** Paul is no joke!!