Williams Can Beat Pavlik and Abraham, Says Wright

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    #61
    Originally posted by Dave Rado
    I agree, but he's not a "tomato can" or a "roadside bum". He's not elite either but he was good enough to give Pavlik a tough fight.
    I don't think he gave Pavlik a tough fight. Pavlik's D isn't that great and Miranda was able to tee off on a few occasions (like all of Pavlik's opponents). In fact, that fight went like most of Pavlik's fights.

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    • Dave Rado
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      #62
      Originally posted by handler000
      Khoren Gevor?? Thats a joke.. Be a fan but KEEP IT REAL!! Okay 2 fights out of 29...
      I can't be bothered to look the rest up, two is enough examples to make the point that he has knock-out power.

      Who has Winky knocked out in the last ten years? A lot of his fights at Jnr Middleweight were also against what you call "tomato cans".

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        #63
        Williams looked good against Wright; however, throwing one million punches and only landing 10 percent only looks nice to the judges. I think Williams will have a more dificult time against prime fighters like Abraham or Pavlick. And I'm not a fan of either of these boxers. Wright just wanted to get paid. He didn't have the thrive that he once had.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Darkstar
          Did you not watch the fight tonight on HBO? Larry set you all straight on the matter.
          Here u go "darkstar"
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            #65
            Originally posted by chen
            Williams looked good against Wright; however, throwing one million punches and only landing 10 percent only looks nice to the judges. I think Williams will have a more dificult time against prime fighters like Abraham or Pavlick. And I'm not a fan of either of these boxers. Wright just wanted to get paid. He didn't have the thrive that he once had.
            CompuBox is BS. I sat ringside and Williams landed plenty. Plenty. Saw the stats afterwards and had to chuckle. CompuBox just keeps discrediting itself. Maybe they need a new guy to count.

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            • handler000
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              #66
              For real.. A lot of people see the compubox numbers on tv and act like what ever they report is written in stone. They dont understand compubox is just guys pushing a counter.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                I can't be bothered to look the rest up, two is enough examples to make the point that he has knock-out power.

                Who has Winky knocked out in the last ten years? A lot of his fights at Jnr Middleweight were also against what you call "tomato cans".
                I just find it funny how you go to the extreme to prove a fighter you like is elite... For one you shouldnt have to look it up if he has fought any fighters who wasnt BUMS. And 2naming 2 guys doesnt prove he has knock out power. If thats the case every fighter has knockout power. I will look it up for you. Here is his last eleven fights now which ones are legitimate contenders to anything?
                Lajuan Simon,Raul Marquez,Edison Miranda,Elvin Ayala,Wayne El****,Khoren Gevor,Sebastien Demers,Kofi Jantuah,Shannan Taylor,Kingsley Ikeke and Luis Daniel Parada

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                  #68
                  Maybe being there live ringside is a different story. But watching it on tv, I only saw Williams slapping the he'll out of Wright. Only landing flush on ocassions. I really like Williams and I think he's got potential, but I don't see him winning against Pavlick or Abraham.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by chen
                    Maybe being there live ringside is a different story. But watching it on tv, I only saw Williams slapping the he'll out of Wright. Only landing flush on ocassions. I really like Williams and I think he's got potential, but I don't see him winning against Pavlick or Abraham.
                    I don't either but slaps or not, he was landing plenty. And they did damage.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by handler000
                      I just find it funny how you go to the extreme to prove a fighter you like is elite...
                      What extreme? And who said I particularly like Abraham? Because I think he hits harder than Winky that means I particularly like him? And why should I know the opponents of every fighter off by heart? I think he's a good fighter but I'm not a fan of his particularly. You seem to be a real irrational hater of his though. I doubt there's a boxing expert alive who would say that Winky has real knock-out power. And most boxing experts think Abraham has knock-out power, even though many think he's limited.

                      And the fact is that you have now avoided the issue on four separate occasions - that Winky doesn't even knock out the bums he fights.
                      Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-12-2009, 01:58 AM.

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