Williams Can Beat Pavlik and Abraham, Says Wright

[RiZО]

What do you expect him to say?

"I just lost to a guy who is rubbish and could not beat Pavlik and Abraham"

That's what the fat guy before him said about the nipple.

[Dave Rado]

How do u know AA has a bigger punch? From the tomato cans he knocked out? WW has fought better caliber fighters who actually belonged in the same ring with him not roadside bums.

You're talking round in circles. Not all of them were roadside bums, and he knocked out those who weren't.

Winky fought plenty of very lowly rated fighters (or roadside bums as you call them) at Jnr Midlleweight, and stopped very few of them. His last KO was in 1999 for goodness sakes, and his last TKO was in 2002.

If you honestly think Winky would have knocked out Miranda in four rounds you know very little about boxing.

[Dave Rado]

So according to you Ali is the only "true" champion ever in boxing?

Lots of Americans have fought abroad. Winky Wright(!), Tyson, Lacy, Mitchell, McClellan, Robinson, and hundreds of others. Most Americans who didn't, it was either for commercial reasons or because their opponents were also American, or because they were the undisputed champion, and the challenger is the one who should be expected to travel. Nothing wrong with that, it only sucks is if their attitude is that they're not willing to fight anywhere. A true champion is willing to fight anywhere, even if for one reason or another, it makes sense for his fights to be at home.

[-Swizzy-]

well, wright is right.

[handler000]

You're talking round in circles. Not all of them were roadside bums, and he knocked out those who weren't.

Winky fought plenty of very lowly rated fighters (or roadside bums as you call them) at Jnr Midlleweight, and stopped very few of them. His last KO was in 1999 for goodness sakes, and his last TKO was in 2002.

If you honestly think he's would not have knocked out Miranda in four rounds you know very little about boxing.

Your last statement, are u asking me if Winky would have knocked out Miranda in 4? Be honest you didnt think AA would have knocked him out in 4 rds. But again who is Miranda? Who has he beat, Allan Green? I dont mind you being a fan of AA but if he wants to fight a good fighter (which I believe he doesnt just a lot of hot air) then he WILL have to come to America. Or just stay in Germany with Sturm and hold the meaningless belt.

[handler000]

Lots of Americans have fought abroad. Tyson, Lacy, Mitchell, McClellan, Robinson, and hundreds of others. Most Americans who didn't, it was either for commercial reasons or because their opponents were also American, or because they were the undisputed champion, and the challenger is the one who should be expected to travel. Nothing wrong with that, it only sucks is if their attitude is that they're not willing to fight anywhere. A true champion is willing to fight anywhere, even if for one reason or another, it makes sense for his fights to be at home.

But why would Pavlik travel he is the recognized MW champ. AA and Sturm are seen only as belt holders...

[Dave Rado]

But why would Pavlik travel he is the recognized MW champ. AA and Sturm are seen only as belt holders...

If the money's much better in Germany, why not? But I don't care where the fight is held, the point is that Abraham is willing to fight him in the States, but Pavlik is not willing to fight outside the States, regardless of which venue would make him more money; and in that situation, to say that it's Abraham who is hiding is ridiculous.

[Burner]

I don't see that happenin.

Dude you gotta admit it...he str8 ****d Winky..I mean that was nasty dude.

[Dave Rado]

But again who is Miranda?

It was beating Miranda that got Pavlik his title shot. And Miranda was favourite to beat Pavlik, and it was a tough war of a fight.

[Darkstar]

This fight could have already happen. Arum and Pavlik already offered Williams a fight.

Williams said no.