Roy Jones the farud

[The Gunner]

Not belonging there is my point. He didn't belong in that division but becasue he was so dominant at his natural weight divisions, the only place for a challenge was in heavy weight, where he didn't belong When your not a heavyweight, if you beat a heavyweight no matter if he is the best or the 10th best, its a big deal. Otherwise everyone would be doing it. I have yet to see any other middleweights or super middlewieghts or light heavy weights dominate a top 5 heavy weight. Holler at me when someone gives up 40 pounds to a heavyweight and dominates him. Roy aint nothing so go hold your breath till it happens.

So dominate at his weight? What are you smoking...DM was the #1 contender for 5 years and Roy never fought him and Tarver was clear #1 guy when he moved up....How the **** was he dominante?

Forgive me if i'm wrong but i always thought being dominante ment you'd smoked everyone in sight.

[The Gunner]

He is an African American he is no Farud.
Farud is Middle Eastern.

You're the 12th guy to crack that one, it was actually quite funny the first 6 times

[KiloTeague]

Bernards fights in jail consisted of two men standing on two rolled out sheets in the middle of a gym slugging it out, where taking a back step was viewed as being a coward. That is not boxing my friend that is brawling. You learn nothing about boxing being in brawls.

Being in Jail has probably helped Nard to be the fighter is today...Mentally though.

Well have you seen Bernard fight. He was the dirtiest fighter in the game at one point. Now hes fighting stiffs like Pavlick so he can box a dude like that but even against Winky he was butting and elbowing. He fights using jailhouse rules. He hits and holds like in a real fight. Wake up buddy. If Bernard had to just box hed have 10 losses by now, and he would have lost to Winky, but if the ref lets him hit and hold hes nearly unbeatable. The Bernard that fought Roy would have killed Jermaine taylor, but at age 40 he doesn't have the same energy. He fights like hes out of jail and he gets away with it. Jail was awsome for Bernard, and his style is straight out the pen and fighters arent ready for it. It remarkable Roy was able to beat him when noone else could even though he was basically cheating in the ring every fight.

[Spirit]

If it makes you sleep better, sure LOL!

No it makes me dance better

[KiloTeague]

So dominate at his weight? What are you smoking...DM was the #1 contender for 5 years and Roy never fought him and Tarver was clear #1 guy when he moved up....How the **** was he dominante?

Forgive me if i'm wrong but i always thought being dominante ment you'd smoked everyone in sight.

Well Darius lost to Julio Gonzales who Roy abused. And Tarver got KOd by Eric Harding so Roy went up and beat a heavy weight. You don't fight a guy who noone knows (tarver) instead of making 10 mill to fight a heavyweight. Let me school you on what makes money. You got alot to learn.

[daggum]

roy just ko'd mr. omar sheika. fraud? i think not.

[The Gunner]

Well have you seen Bernard fight. He was the dirtiest fighter in the game at one point. Now hes fighting stiffs like Pavlick so he can box a dude like that but even against Winky he was butting and elbowing. He fights using jailhouse rules. He hits and holds like in a real fight. Wake up buddy. If Bernard had to just box hed have 10 losses by now, and he would have lost to Winky, but if the ref lets him hit and hold hes nearly unbeatable. The Bernard that fought Roy would have killed Jermaine taylor, but at age 40 he doesn't have the same energy. He fights like hes out of jail and he gets away with it. Jail was awsome for Bernard, and his style is straight out the pen and fighters arent ready for it. It remarkable Roy was able to beat him when noone else could even though he was basically cheating in the ring every fight.

Ive already explained to you to what Hopkins jail "career" consited of, whether he is a dirty fighter or not is totaly irelivent to the fact he was green against Roy with nowhere near the experience that Roy had. Roy was consistantly fighting and sparring with high level fighters while Hopkins was brawling with crack heads and rapist.

The Hopkins of right now absolutly eats alive the Hopkins that fought Jones....Hopkins own words are the 40 year old version of Bernard Hopkins knocks out the 30 year old version of Bernard Hopkins.

Bernard was wild back in the day, now he is pretty much the complete fighter. Go watch his first fight with Segunda Mercado and then come back here and still say that guy beats todays version. Theres no comparison, Hopkins is in a whole different league today as he was back then.

[KiloTeague]

Well Darius lost to Julio Gonzales who Roy abused. And Tarver got KOd by Eric Harding so Roy went up and beat a heavy weight. You don't fight a guy who noone knows (tarver) instead of making 10 mill to fight a heavyweight. Let me school you on what makes money. You got alot to learn.

So you are wrong. Dominating everyone in sight is not the only way to dominate. You can also dominate everyone who makes monitary sense. Or you can dominate everyone who has beaten the other guys who are also supposed to be good. Its called killing two birds with one stone. Roy did that. He dominated Gonzales who KO'd Darius. He dominated Harding who KO'd Tarver. Then beat a heavyweight. What sense would it make to fight two loosers. I know Darius didn't get KO'd till after Roy fought the heavy weight, but common, Darius was never on Roy's level. Why didn't Toney or Nard of Calzaghe fight Darius. Answer that? At least Roy was taking on bigger challenges. Toney, Bernard, and Calzaghe were all taking lesser risks. Nard and Calslappy just stayed at one weight, and Calzaghe could have fought Ottke or Darius. Both in his continent but nope.

[KiloTeague]

Ive already explained to you to what Hopkins jail "career" consited of, whether he is a dirty fighter or not is totaly irelivent to the fact he was green against Roy with nowhere near the experience that Roy had. Roy was consistantly fighting and sparring with high level fighters while Hopkins was brawling with crack heads and rapist.

The Hopkins of right now absolutly eats alive the Hopkins that fought Jones....Hopkins own words are the 40 year old version of Bernard Hopkins knocks out the 30 year old version of Bernard Hopkins.

Bernard was wild back in the day, now he is pretty much the complete fighter. Go watch his first fight with Segunda Mercado and then come back here and still say that guy beats todays version. Theres no comparison, Hopkins is in a whole different league today as he was back then.

So what your saying is Jermaine Taylor is better than Bernard or at least as good because he beat him twice in Bernards Prime. Thats what your saying right?

[The Gunner]

Well Darius lost to Julio Gonzales who Roy abused. And Tarver got KOd by Eric Harding so Roy went up and beat a heavy weight. You don't fight a guy who noone knows (tarver) instead of making 10 mill to fight a heavyweight. Let me school you on what makes money. You got alot to learn.

That doesn't mean ****, Roy never done it. Fair enough, there was no point in fighting a shot DM at that time but Tarver had came back from that loss and reversed it, he was the clear #1 contender.

Please dont say he's wiped the division out though because that is utter horse ****.