How highly do you regard Shane Mosley?

[MoneyMayFan]

Tito ducked Winky, but then you have a picture of their fight in your sig

Titos wins, DLH, Prime undefeted Vargas, prime undefeted Campas, Joppy,. David reaid,ect,ect,ect,ect

we can go all day buddy!!!!!!!!!!

Take that DLH and undefeated Vargas off...Vargas lost and got a gift decision just like tito

[Spiegelo]

floyd tried to get a fight with mosley before the oscar thing even came up. But at the time floyd wasnt as big as he is now so mosley seen more money elsewhere

Yeah and after his super feathweight and lightweight wins he was also calling out Oscar. And Margarito was calling out Floyd before he ever headlined an HBO/Showtime event. As I said there's a time and place for everything. The correct order would have been for Mayweather to take on Mosley at 147 after Oscar, or after Hatton even. But he retired in order to come back for more money, and will either fight Mosley, Cotto, or one of the featherweights moving up. We'll see, I just don't see how anyone with half a brain can think Mosley ducked Floyd.

[MoneyMayFan]

Yeah and after his super feathweight and lightweight wins he was also calling out Oscar. And Margarito was calling out Floyd before he ever headlined an HBO/Showtime event. As I said there's a time and place for everything. The correct order would have been for Mayweather to take on Mosley at 147 after Oscar, or after Hatton even. But he retired in order to come back for more money, and will either fight Mosley, Cotto, or one of the featherweights moving up. We'll see, I just don't see how anyone with half a brain can think Mosley ducked Floyd.

Im not saying its a bad thing to go with the money but may did reach out for the fight.

[QUISQUEYA]

I'm sick of everyone claiming he ducked Floyd. Floyd was fighting Mosley's promoter and friend. He had little to no say in it. Everybody knew Oscar was going to fight Floyd, and immediately after Shane wanted the winner. Sometimes you have to sit back for a fight until your time is right, and sometimes you don't have much of a say in the matter because your boss is fighting your potential opponent. What happened after May 5th? Shane immediately called out the winner. And while Shane was saying he wanted to fight Mayweather, he didn't sit on his ass and collect easy wins, he fights Cotto, tries to get Zab, moves up to fight Mayorga, and then destroys Margarito. Mosley is a 1st ballot Hall of Famer, ATG, no question about it. There's like 2 people that everyone accuses Oscar of ducking, and Shane fought them both, twice. He's afraid of nobody.

Shane was offered the Floyd fight in July. For the November PPV date. Mayweather didn't fight Oscar until May of the following year.

You are getting emotional and wounded, but you haven't reconciled the timing. You are saying that Shane didn't collect easy wins during that time. Zab? 2 years after Mayweather? Mayorga? After everybody had KO'd him? Collazo? After he lost to Hatton? That wasn't exactly Murderer's Row.

Margarito was a good take. Nobody wanted Tony at that time.

[NakiFan]

I thought it said how do you regard "shame" mosley lmao

[Spiegelo]

Shane was offered the Floyd fight in July. For the November PPV date. Mayweather didn't fight Oscar until May of the following year.

You are getting emotional and wounded, but you haven't reconciled the timing. You are saying that Shane didn't collect easy wins during that time. Zab? 2 years after Mayweather? Mayorga? After everybody had KO'd him? Collazo? After he lost to Hatton? That wasn't exactly Murderer's Row.

Margarito was a good take. Nobody wanted Tony at that time.

If you don't remember that fight was scheduled several months in advance. Floyd isn't gonna use Mosley as a tuneup now, that was Oscar's fault for wanting to fight once a year for a huge event. Collazo, yeah what a bum after that devastating loss to Hatton.. oh no wait that's right most people felt Lou won especially after almost knocking Hatton out in the 12th. It's not Mosley's fault he makes elite fighters look bad or that Lou hurt his hand. If Zab is so whack, then why did he badly hurt Cotto twice, and make him resort to low blows to hold on? Mayorga, the weakest win on the list, but it was still impressive being that it was at 154 (a division shane never belonged in), and he needed a marquee name being that Zab got injured. Also Zab looked pretty impressive in his fight against Clottey. And you left Cotto out. Any problems with Cotto? I see that as a very impressive list, especially at Mosley's age.

[Steak]

I dont rate him higher than Trinidad or De La Hoya(who I rate as the best out of the 3), but his recent performances have boosted him a LOT in my eye, and its not entirely impossible for him to eclipse Trinidad or De La Hoya.

[MoneyMayFan]

I dont rate him higher than Trinidad or De La Hoya(who I rate as the best out of the 3), but his recent performances have boosted him a LOT in my eye, and its not entirely impossible for him to eclipse Trinidad or De La Hoya.

IMO if you rate those three its oscar,shane, then tito

[Horus]

Yeah and after his super feathweight and lightweight wins he was also calling out Oscar. And Margarito was calling out Floyd before he ever headlined an HBO/Showtime event. As I said there's a time and place for everything. The correct order would have been for Mayweather to take on Mosley at 147 after Oscar, or after Hatton even. But he retired in order to come back for more money, and will either fight Mosley, Cotto, or one of the featherweights moving up. We'll see, I just don't see how anyone with half a brain can think Mosley ducked Floyd.

Mayweather in no hurry to return for Mosley

Thursday, January 29, 2009
By David Mayo


Shane Mosley is making noise about fighting Floyd Mayweather again, both with his mouth and his fists.

Perhaps he hasn't been listening.

Mayweather might be willing to come back for the biggest fight in boxing. Or maybe not. He has not wavered from his position of the past several weeks, that if he felt guided to return to the ring for the sport's biggest possible event, he might. A definite maybe.

Problem is, Mayweather-Mosley isn't the biggest possible fight.
Make no mistake, Mayweather's return would be the biggest event in boxing. No debate about the overloaded welterweight division is complete without speculating about the Grand Rapids native's potential for a comeback. He is the highest-earning American in the sport, outside of Oscar De La Hoya, whose star power was dulled by last month's lopsided loss to Manny Pacquiao.

Boxing could use a comeback by the undefeated Mayweather. And the longer he stays inactive, the more his ardent pursuers come to view him as vulnerable, which only increases the outcry.

Like from Pacquiao, the man who assumed Mayweather's pound-for-pound mantle.

Or from Ricky Hatton, the man left pancaked on a Las Vegas canvas, courtesy of a walloping left hook, last time Mayweather was seen in a ring.

But Mosley?

Mosley staked his most recent pursuit of Mayweather with a dominating ninth-round knockout of Antonio Margarito on Saturday before the largest crowd ever to fill Los Angeles' Staples Center for any event. Not even the 2004 Pistons-Lakers championship series drew like Mosley-Margarito.

Keep in mind, however, that both Mosley and Margarito entered the fight with five losses. As impressive as Mosley's power display was, it isn't as if beating Margarito hadn't been done.

It also is worth remembering the interminable delays Mosley caused for Mayweather on at least two occasions earlier in their careers, when the fight made all kinds of sense, only for Mosley to shy away.
Ten years ago, when a fight between them would have matched two of the brilliant, rising stars in the sport, Mosley balked. He and his father and then-trainer, Jack, were at Van Andel Arena the night Mayweather brought Grand Rapids its first championship fight, after which Jack Mosley was asked to assess his interest in the matchup.

For $10 million, his son would take the fight, Jack Mosley said, knowing that Mayweather had earned a $150,000 base purse for that night's lackluster decision over Carlos Rios, and that Mayweather-Mosley wasn't worth eight figures even if the purses were combined, then multiplied by two.

They traveled divergent paths for years thereafter. Mosley moved up to welterweight and defeated De La Hoya, only to lose twice to Vernon Forrest. Another win over De La Hoya boosted him again, only to fall victim to a pair of losses to Ronald "Winky" Wright.

It took until mid-2006, after Mosley scored consecutive knockouts over Fernando Vargas, before Mayweather-Mosley made sense again.

Mosley decided to take a vacation instead, leaving Mayweather to fight Carlos Baldomir.

So what would encourage Mayweather, whose eye is on bigger prizes against other marquee opponents, to agree to such a fight now that it benefits Mosley?

Probably nothing.

Richard Schaefer, chief executive of Golden Boy Promotions, said after Mosley's victory that he intends to open talks with Mayweather's representatives.

That phone might ring a while.

Mayweather-Mosley would be enormous. But fill in Mosley's name with someone else's -- someone who didn't hold up Mayweather's career, back when it mattered -- and that doesn't change.

Mosley, at 37, scored a big victory. That doesn't mean he is the person to lure Mayweather out of retirement. That fight could have happened on several occasions. Mosley opted out every time.

As much as Mosley might want to opt in now, the only opponent Mayweather should wait out is the Hatton-Pacquiao winner in May, assuming he is waiting

[Steak]

IMO if you rate those three its oscar,shane, then tito

its close, but personally I would put Tito above Mosley. he had a huge amount of good wins at 147lbs, and was the first one to beat both Vargas and Mayorga out of the three. not to mention he was a destroyer at 160lbs.

the thing is that Mosley is still doing very good in his career, while Trinidad and De La Hoya have completely fallen off the radar. which throws me off a bit.